Hacker News .hnnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | FabCH's commentslogin

The comment was exaggerated.

If you are caught, you get a big fine, 150$-ish and if you pay it nothing will change.

However, if you get caught again or don’t pay the fine, it’s not a misdemeanor, it’s a felony. You will be caught at the Schengen border and flagged as a fugitive and get a Schengen ban. Or if you are a CH or EU resident you will be summoned by the court for a court case and you could go to jail. Most likely you’ll get a 1000$+ fine.

The housing comes in when you try to rent a new place and the landlord asks „are you a felon?“ and you can’t say no anymore.


Send the author an e-mail.

Not to condone the violence OP is calling for, but we have very recent examples of what happens when somebody does this.

The factual answer to your question is: „for a limited time, rejections rates by health insurance companies plummets“


This doesn't appear to be true at all. Do you have a source?

I can’t be bothered to look one up to be honest. I’m not that invested in US internal politics.

But Wikipedia has a comprehensive list of reactions with citations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Brian_Thompson


As someone who lives in the US I'd kind of prefer if people didn't flippantly mislead my countrymen to claim that assassinations are beneficial. I found zero sources on Wikipedia for what you claimed. Seriously, if you are too "bothered" to look up any source for an empirical claim, perhaps you should reconsider posting the claim in the first place.

Here are several articles about denial increases in the time immediately following Thompson's death:

- https://www.os-healthcare.com/news-and-blog/denial-rates-are...

- https://www.experian.com/blogs/healthcare/state-of-claims-20...


So the "factual answer" actually is false, and you can't be bothered to even do a google search, you're just spreading misinformation for fun and spite.


The claim was not "UHC made prior authorization easier for many procedures," the claim was "rejection rates by health insurance companies plummeted." I found several sources claiming that denial rates increased following the assassination:

- https://www.os-healthcare.com/news-and-blog/denial-rates-are...

- https://www.experian.com/blogs/healthcare/state-of-claims-20...


If this isn’t satire, it’s super unethical.

The „experiment“ includes humans who are neither aware they are in an experiment nor have consented to it nor will be debriefed after it.

And one has to wonder if the whole thing is even fully legal? Emailing _the police_ with time wasting AI generated images seems risky…


Judging by the OPs comments, the employer could easily retain them if they offered them remote and a bit more comp.

It’s on the employer to retain talent.


Yeah well, the source of the information is super suspicious. Let me translate this to different locales:

en_US: „Fox news survey shows most people against immigration“

en_UK: „The Sun readers would vote for even tougher brexit, polls show“

It’s not exactly surprising that people who read 20min vote in line with SVP.

If you want more neutral information about Swiss politics, swissinfo.ch is the independent public media corporation.


The poll is by Tamedia, a reliable polling company (as much as any polling company can be). It has been widely cited in others media, including the public one.

There is significant support for the initiative. Initiatives tend to lose steam as time go by, so it might not be enough in the end, but like Brexit, don't underestimate it.


Let's not pretend like Tamedia doesn't have a bias that has a significant overlap with people who tend to follow the SVP vote suggestions. Much like it's well known NZZ will come out with articles against the 10 million cap because it has a significant FDP bias. Swiss private media has well known biases and is just thinly veiled propaganda most of the time.

But SRG does a good job at presenting things neutrally.

Of course nobody should underestimate the initiative. But I think you will agree that "Most Swiss back initiative to cap population at 10 million" is a sensationalist title since most people probably didn't make up their mind about their vote yet.


People in this thread are missing an interesting perspective:

We could, if we really wanted to, actually force this issue via referendum. It takes only 100k signatures to force a vote at the federal level, and less at lower levels.

It wouldn’t be the weirdest thing we voted on…


In 2018 the Swiss voted if cows are allowed to have horns (1). It was called the horned cow initiative.

(1) https://www.admin.ch/en/horned-cow-initiative


Switzerland? Cows? I can’t help but be reminded of https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ySxyPMZkrwU


Ultimately the people are sovereign, but realistically the Kantons are. Which is why that often cited „lady denied citizenship“ is incomplete. The Kantonal court overturned the decision of the municipality and gave her citizenship.

It’s also why it took considerable more effort to force Appenzell to accept women’s suffrage.


No country in Europe automatically grants citizenship just because you were born there. That’s a US thing. The closest are places like France where you can get it at 18 if you were born in France and meet a few more criteria.

And because Switzerland has mandatory military service, a lot of men born in Switzerland don’t _want_ to naturalize, especially those with EU passports.

Switzerland isn’t really that much different from other EU countries when it comes to citizenship, except for the 10 year requirement. That one is on the high side.

But for some reason it gets a lot of press as a particularly difficult country to naturalize in.


> [Jus soli]'s a US thing

More accurately it's a New World thing. Almost all (30 out of 35) of the countries that have jus soli are North or South American. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli


For an international perspective, I can tell you that their competitors are doing very well in my corner of Europe, but the competitions quality is 10x-100x that of Beyond.

People buy competitors products because they are simply legitimately fine tasting products on their own, no vegetarian vs meat marketing required.

Beyond just has shit product, even if they genuinely were the first to develop the technology.


I guess I just don't get it. Obviously there's a decent sized market for vegetarian convenience food, but the meat-based branding, and attempts to copy texture/flavor of meat products would seem a turn off for that market. Good flavors and mouth feel (not tofu!) are important, but why explicitly try to copy meat unless meat eaters are the market you are targeting?

It'd make more sense to me to have different products/brands/advertising for different market segments. For the meat eaters the marketing would be "healthy/cheap, tastes just like beef/chicken" (which seems to be what Beyond Meat are going for), and for the vegetarians "delicious flavors, plant based, high in protein" (not "fake beef").


> Good flavors and mouth feel (not tofu!) are important

as one of those vegetarians who isn't particularly compelled by anything intentionally imitating meat, this is always somewhat funny to me. tofu already has good flavor and mouthfeel if prepared well, and presumably the rest of this alleged market segment is as capable of preparing tofu adequately as i am personally. so even if beyond was to pivot to (also) being beyond tofu, i fail to see how that would capture appreciably more of the market.

i could be wrong, but it's always seemed to me that most of the apparent demand for something better than tofu is not in fact coming from inside the house.


May you share a recipe or two?

I love tofu too but mostly buy pre-prepared ones, open and bite it cold (yummy !) My current favorites are the "dried" Taifun like their Japanese Style.

https://www.taifun-tofu.de/en/products/tofu-filets-japanese-...


sorry, can't say i've ever cooked from a recipe, but i highly recommend caramelizing already-crispy tofu with soy sauce, sriracha, and ginger (+ fish sauce if you swing that way)


> I guess I just don't get it

Imagine you liked something, then realized that thing was bad and you didn't want to do it anymore. Then somebody offered you an alternative without the ethical problems.

I ate meat for like 30 years, then as I learned more about the realities of the meat industry in the US (suffering of animals, development of antibiotic resistant bacteria, pollution of air and water, exploitation and harm to workers, etc) I decided I couldn't buy meat anymore. I like having burgers and sausages and such, and Beyond meat gives me something that tastes good, is easy to cook, fits into a healthy diet.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: