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I think you are conflating the two because of the case of Soviet Union.

A) Soviet Union was not communism. Communism never happened. Communism/communist society is an ideal.

B) Soviet Union was a totalitarian state, yes.

C) One of the main concepts in communism is that there is/should be no state. Totalitarianism assumes that there is a state. This is in every definition of communism and totalitarianism. Here I'm going to quote it from the first line of each from Wikipedia:

"Totalitarianism is concept of a political system in which the state holds total control over the society"

"Communism ... absence of social classes, money, and the state."



"Communism ... absence of [...] state."

So yeah, "hasn't been done right yet". Could you hypothesize who in a true-scotsman communist non-state would regulate people's output ("ability") & input ("need")? Who would enforce the laws? If "everyone and anyone" is an enforcer, then claiming there is "no state" is sophistry.




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