Boats provide some of the cheapest rent and best views in the Bay Area. Paid less than one year's worth of rent to buy a 42' motor boat and parked it over by Oakland where my monthly liveaboard slip fee is just over $500/month. If you need to be in or around SF and are trying to save on rent, I can't encourage people enough to try it out.

When marinas become full of thrify tech workers, slip fees increase, people bid up any available slip (used boat), and real boaters are forced out, then you will have encouraged people enough.

I always dreamed of living on a sailboat, docked wherever I choose.. Mobile apt! Why not!? People think I'm crazy when I talk about it.

Good tip, you never know when it's time for SF.

Glad you brought him up. I learned about him reading his book about solo sailing around the world in a 31 foot boat. Good read even if you aren't interested in sailing. Free ebook here: http://www.arachnoid.com/sailbook/

He used to post here on HN: https://hackernews.hn/threads?id=lutusp

It's been a while, but perhaps he's on his boat.

I've found Lutus to be a valuable participant/contributor to HN. And, both inside and outside of HN, a kind if forthright person advocating for understanding of and quality in the topic at hand.

His work is well worth exploring.

I'm left wondering why I wrote this... "meta" comment. I guess because some of this insight and excellence seems to benefit from if not require a certain independence of spirit and perhaps a corresponding sense of perspective.

Thank you for this link. As a sailor and coder this seems to be a great fit for me, and I'll be reading it right away. Much obliged.

He's also a ham, I'm looking forward to using JRX once my buddy sends me back my Icom PCR.