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Did they categorize anti-Israel and pro-Palestine protests as antisemitic hate crimes like the universities did when they reported similar numbers? Do you agree with that categorization?


Whilst that was certainly my gut reaction, looking at the report, they only count actual felonies where charges are laid. Protests and anti-Israel rather than antisemitic things do actually appear not to be conflated.

However... Between 2013 and 2016, when that rule came into play, reported hate crimes rose 18.9%.

This seems to be less a giant jump upwards, and more a slow and gradual increase. Concerning, but not the end of the world. Unsurprising in an environment where "hate the foreigner" is en vogue for the political elite.


I’m glad to see antisemitism doesn’t have the sting it used to have. It’s been a shield to hide behind while doing the most abhorrent things. The world is waking up.


In most western countries it is the only true suppression of free speech, as the state will mobilise it's full force against someone, no matter their position or spuriousness of the claims.


True. The UK is probably one of the worst in this regard.


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I'll take things that didn't happen for $10


Do you think the entire British press is just making this up to mess with you?


> Do you think the entire British press is just making this up to mess with you?

What do you count as the British press? The UK has a notorious yellow-journalism tabloid culture.


Anyone that’s been reporting the protests and attacks from all sides of politics. Do you think it’s all elaborate fakes to trick you?


> you think it’s all elaborate fakes to trick you?

The fact content and provocativeness of the reporting has varied wildly from source to source, and in particular, between the British tabloid press, on one hand, and British institutional press (and international press), on the other hand.


Not really: some choose to show the behaviour and translate the Arabic, others don't because "Pro Palestinian" marches inevitably end up revealing many of their participants openly support Hamas.


Remember when leftists were saying the UK rape gangs didn't happen? Pepperidge Farms remembers.


I’m glad to see racism doesn’t have the sting it used to have. It’s been a shield to hide behind while doing the most abhorrent things. The world is waking up.


Is anti-semitism on the rise, or is the bar on the ground?


It’s hard to say. The Israeli government, and its agents abroad have been pushing a narrative that any criticism of the government or its policies is in fact antisemitism.


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New account made just for this comment is always suspicious.

Look - the correct amount of hate crime is always 0 but using a percentage masks the amount of crime that comes from noise. Hate crime is not evenly distributed - no crime is - and a rise from 10 to 20 per month in a city of 8.5 million is not the cataclysm you're acting like it is.

Again: no hate crime is good and this increase is an unalloyed ill. It's something that deserves attention and NYPD resources, as well as public campaigns.

The last thing I want is anyone to be attacked for their religious beliefs.

But the fact that this talking point is heavily botted is indicative of broader initiatives to make sure it stays a talking point disproportionately to its impact.


Just see what reactions I'm getting for posting a NYPD stat and my other comments who are very benign (flagged, downvoted) - HN is not a welcoming place for an actual discussion on these topics.


Deflection + ad hominem attack + outright lies. Local maximum of bad faith dishonesty. Impressive, really that you get away with it here. This isn't reddit, twitter, or farLeftSky.


It's because you're making a big deal out of a percentage change.

Stinks of Lying with Statistics and people tend to assume you're either ignorant or being deliberately deceptive.

See: https://xkcd.com/1102/


Show me a single article about "antisemitism on the decline".


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So? Does that change the reported NYPD stats?




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