Yes I am. To the extent I have a vested interest in Groovy, it may or may not be relevant to my original post. My larger point was, as I said before, if the purpose is to offer a 'taste' of dynamic functionality, a la ruby/python, to Java developers, Groovy is a much simpler way to go about it. Should people then get a real hankering for it, you've got more options, either with more groovy, or jruby or jython or scala or what have you. Nothing more.