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It sounds like your problem is with the law, not Apple.


This is farcical reasoning. Apple chose to sue Samsung. They could have not sued them. Therefore, the problem is with Apple, who chose to be the aggressor in a bullshit rounded rectangle lawsuit.


Why hasn't Apple targeted HTC or Motorola with their bullshit rounded rectangle lawsuit? Could it be because the issues are more nuanced than you're giving them credit for?


I think most HN readers confuse the distinction between "utility" and "design" patents. They feel the rounded rectangle does not provide utility and therefore should not be awarded a patent. If you think rounded rectangles are crazy, you should see the patents filed by Gucci and Chanel. Trademark and copyright will not suffice for protection of design, this is why design patents exist.


Actually Apple has an obligation to defend their patents.

And this idea that Apple patented rectangles is just a figment of your imagination. And a sign of your ignorance.


>Actually Apple has an obligation to defend their patents.

You're confusing trademarks and patents. You have an obligation to defend trademarks because if you don't you risk dilution. This isn't the case with patents.


> This isn't the case with patents

You're confusing "utility" patents with "design" patents. You have obligation to defend the design patents because you'll need this to apply for trade dress protection.


I never said you didn't have a duty to defend trade dress. It can be diluted just like trademarks.

There may be some overlap, and as far as what's covered by the design patent is covered by trade dress you'd have to defend it (or risk dilution), but it has nothing to do with the patent.

You can register for trade dress protection without design patents. Design patents expire, trade dress does not, it's definitely possible to be covered by one and not the other.


Yes, because design patents expire, there's even greater reason to need to defend them while they exist. Design patents and trade dress protection often go hand in hand. In order to show trade dress infringement, one needs to show consumer confusion between the two products, and IIRC one needs around 4 years of solid registration before protection is enabled. So when you don't have trade dress protection yet, you would have to use your enforce your design patents to ensure that consumers won't be confused for 4 years or so.

Design patents can be implemented before the release of a product, but trade dress protection is decided by the market after being available to consumers for a certain length of time.

A handbag designer like Gucci would enforce their designer handbags with design patents when they release new ones, then enforce them with trade dress later on.


It's still not correct to say there is an obligation to defend design patents. That term implies a certain thing--that what you are obligated to defend will be diluted if you don't do so.

The patent itself will not become diluted, thus using the term "obligation to defend" is incorrect. It may be a good idea to use it to help establish trade dress protection, but your design patent will last just as long and still be enforceable even if you choose not to defend it.


I can't help but note that that's exactly what he said in his first sentence.




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