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On the contrary, I think that what these researchers did was the only ethical thing to do once they discovered that this was possible.

There's no way that this hasn't been done dozens of times before by intelligence agencies, hacker groups, and whoever else you care to worry about. Most of us here were well aware that public Discord channels have always been public and durable. It's hardly a secret from the technically savvy, it's just that Discord doesn't make it clear enough to regular users.

All this paper changes is that it draws mainstream attention to what was already happening illicitly for as long as Discord has been around. This can only be a good thing: the children and teenagers 404 is so worried about have always been vulnerable to their data getting leaked just like this, it's just that up until now that's been happening in the dark so as not to kill the golden goose.



A while back there was a site that allowed you, for payment, to look up all public chat messages of a Discord user. Clearly this database exists, and if criminals or government agencies want to get their hands on it, they can.


I think conflating a security paper which shows something is possible to using the "exploit" to create a database 100s of GBs large and analyze it is disingenuous at best.


Creating the database got attention in a way that just pointing it out wouldn't have. You point it out and people shrug and say "sure, that's totally unsurprising". You produce more than 100 GB of data and you have people's attention.

These databases exist and always have because this has always been possible. The only difference is that they've typically been held close to the chest by intelligence agencies or hacker groups or whoever else made them for illicit purposes. The only change here is that this database is public and is drawing mainstream attention, which is a strictly good thing.

A lot of the people on here are using the same reasoning that would say that LockPickingLawyer should stop showing how to pick locks because he's making it too easy to learn how garbage most locks are.




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