Yes the crazy sci-fi font is hard to read, but I have to give them props for being unique. I even like the grammatical mistakes, it's so different than the ultra-polished stuff we usually see here. This project has personality!
If you zoom in it's pretty cool how each letter is a matrix of squares, but agreed - very challenging and distracting to try and read when the end result looks interlaced.
I've got a dot matrix printer somewhere in a box that could reprint that site with all the dot lines, if I manage to find it and connect to a computer. I can't remember if it has a serial or parallel port.
At first I thought Artanis was a new font! And even reading the text I couldn't shake the impression that they were offering me this weird font with each character cut up by horizontal lines.
When I zoomed in it looks kind of cute. Maybe I should download the Artanis font after all.
I know we're not supposed to go off on website stuff (per guidelines: "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage") but jfc who thought this design was even remotely a good idea?
Somebody who doesn't want the same bland, boring, homogenized look that every other website in the world is using?
Personally I like a site that shows a bit of personality. It's quirky, but for an open source web framework written in Guile, it looks about perfect to me.
I don't see any unreadable parts and found it very readable. I guess yet again saved by not downloading random web fonts onto my machine or not running random JS. Yay! Blocking unnecessary traffic for the win!
It's definitely a design non-conforming with the current customs, but it's also a fine choice for this type of project. It feels like bland minimalist design has become so prevalent that people are horrified by any deviation from the expected norm. Not everything has to be designed for maximum contrast and readability, sometimes projects require a bit of flair.
It is great to see GNU Artanis still going strong.
I toyed with it a number of years ago.. perhaps before it was called Artanis. At that time I was invested in GNU Guile being my 'general purpose' programming language. I was even adding GNU Guile into my game as a frontend language. It was pretty good.
Overall I really enjoyed using Artanis. Before you had Swagger, etc, I was wrapping Artanis code to autogen helper/documentation pages... Scheme made that process far easier than other languages would.
To be honest, although I still toy about with GNU Guile, I have to admit it never was the main language I wanted it to be. For one reason or another, I moved on to other tools and languages. From memory, one of the reasons was GNU Guile was not that good (if installed at all) on Windows systems.
(Of course, now that we have WSL, Guile is much easier available)
Honestly I hope GNU Guile gets more love. If Guile gets more love -- so will Artanis. Personally, I think GNU Guile would have been better than Python but I accept that might be my bias showing.
Once I finish one of my jobs, I no longer need a Windows PC. I will be installing Linux and, likely......... GNU Guix Distro. So I will likely be more invested in GNU Guile, again.
> In the beginning, Artanis was largely inspired by Ruby on Rails to generate the scaffold code as possible. And the URL remapping API was inspired by Sinatra, another web framework of Ruby. That's why it's named "Artanis", since it's the revserse of "Sinatra".
And here I thought (and I'm assuming others, based on the cheeky comments) it was named for the Starcraft character.
I know, not an amazing alternative imo as they're also saying it takes a long time. I just wish I didn't need to be all in into Guix to easily play around with such projects, which aside from that, look really cool.
Did you catch that page there aside from the manual, where they describe how to install it on Ubuntu? https://artanis.dev/blog/build-0.6-ubuntu.html it seems quite detailed, maybe it wouldn't be so bad to get through.
You can use guix on any GNU/Linux distro afaik. If you create a guix profile for a project, it should be fairly simple to use that to install artanis. With guix time-machine you can also make reproducible setups, to ensure you can run your stuff years later.
But the most basic use of installing artanis in the default profile should also work.
Where do you see the difficulties installing artanis with guix?
;; NOTE: I won't encourage using Racket but if you really want,
;; I still give you some hints in this tutorial. But the
;; tutorial will base on Guile and RnRs.
Not sure. I could imagine it being because it is no longer a Scheme, or the creators and maintainers do no longer want it to be seen as a Scheme. Or perhaps because it introduces differences not adhering to the Scheme standards and therefore Schemers do not like it.
I liked Racket. I only found it difficult to use multiple cores dynamically with it and its places concept and lifting and multiple Racket VMs and all that. Guile seems easier in that regard. But Racket has typed racket and more advanced macro system ...
I think it's cool too! People can be so pedestrian when it comes to these things, and so upset when there's a deviation from the norm. Both Artanis' manual and the nice scheme tutorial use interesting fonts and layouts (and clear to read!).
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