This is just further evidence to show that there’s some periodic reset of civilization. Perhaps sun forced(micro-novas triggered by the black hole at the center of our Milky Way flipping its magnetic field). The shedding of the sun’s outer convective layer throws a big disturbance to the earth’s tectonic plates causing plates to move(or poles to be perceived as moving if the tectonic plates were to be used as frame of reference). This is led by a period where earth doesn’t have a strong magnetic field(as it takes time to recover), and low solar output which sputters back up leading to an ice-age with intermittent blasts. This prolly forced humans to build large underground shelters(Gobekle Tepe, Cappadosia, etc) to live when there’s intense solar outbursts.
Our genome hasn’t evolved much since the last 150,000yrs meaning that all faculties have been the same for ancient man. What we’ve effectively achieved in 2000yrs must’ve been replicated a few times in history. Even if the silicon age never came, it is likely man had strong agriculture, pottery, understanding of nature, evolution of animals(wolves were effectively bred into dog companions 40,000yrs ago), etc that would’ve surely lead to vast amounts of knowledge being gathered. And with high CO2 concentrations, it is likely that agriculture produce and access to energy(coal, firewood, nutrition, etc) was abundant to support fairly complex civilization that could support occupational specializations.
There’s evidence across the world in anthropologic, natural history and other evidence left behind. However, the full interpretation lies behind a series of walls of resets where we can only guess, but not fully understand the context of how things were. Imagine a 10,000yrs from now, someone finds a portion of a fossilized city dump with no direct access or lineage from present day. There’s not much that can be gleaned of things there. And some of these events are so catastrophic that they move oceans/atmospheric currents at supersonic speeds and cover large swathes of land under miles of slurry.
> Imagine a 10,000yrs from now, someone finds a portion of a fossilized city dump with no direct access or lineage from present day. There’s not much that can be gleaned of things there.
You say this has all happened before, and yet that "a modern city dump in 10,000 years" would have a LOT of artifacts that do not exist in any 10,000 year old sites we've found. If we were to find one, a lot could actually be gleaned from it.
Things made of stone are easy ones, of course, since they already have. The volume of those today is far higher than in any historical sites. Glass, ceramics could also survive in many conditions. Copper, I think? But just the stone/concrete infrastructure remains of an NYC would be very noticable.
The volume of human remains would be wildly different too, admittedly we're getting away from just "city dumps" then.
you'd think we'd have more "bail top" bottles around today if they were so durable.
I've got a gully that was used as a trash dump in the 1920s. We found some "rust colored areas" in the soil and some ~10mm shards of ceramics with recognizable glazing still. even the bricks were shattered and easy to mistake for rock.
I think the speed of natural recycling is vastly underestimated. There's a few rare occasions and circumstances where preservation can happen; the default state is entropy eating things as fast as they're built.
It varies a lot by location and conditions. I find lots of stuff in fields around me, of all ages. Loads of Victorian ceramics, but also 1920s glass, 1980s ring pulls, Roman tiles, Mesolithic flint.
How is this evidence of the "periodic reset of civilization?" Why what we have done in the past 2000 years have been replicated before? These just seem to be unfounded speculations like pyramid lasers and Atlantis.
Our genome hasn’t evolved much since the last 150,000yrs meaning that all faculties have been the same for ancient man. What we’ve effectively achieved in 2000yrs must’ve been replicated a few times in history. Even if the silicon age never came, it is likely man had strong agriculture, pottery, understanding of nature, evolution of animals(wolves were effectively bred into dog companions 40,000yrs ago), etc that would’ve surely lead to vast amounts of knowledge being gathered. And with high CO2 concentrations, it is likely that agriculture produce and access to energy(coal, firewood, nutrition, etc) was abundant to support fairly complex civilization that could support occupational specializations.
There’s evidence across the world in anthropologic, natural history and other evidence left behind. However, the full interpretation lies behind a series of walls of resets where we can only guess, but not fully understand the context of how things were. Imagine a 10,000yrs from now, someone finds a portion of a fossilized city dump with no direct access or lineage from present day. There’s not much that can be gleaned of things there. And some of these events are so catastrophic that they move oceans/atmospheric currents at supersonic speeds and cover large swathes of land under miles of slurry.