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You declare bankruptcy and walk away, more or less without serious consequences so long as you were not deliberately fraudulent. You may have trouble getting another loan or conversely you may find it easier now that you have relatively more experience than before.

Germany in particular takes a moralistic approach to finances that IMO harms the economy quite a bit and constrains entrepreneurship to the well connected and already established. You are only supposed to start businesses that succeed.

In reality money is not a real thing, money is numbers in a computer database that we collectively signal and coordinate the economic activity and utilization of the resources that hold the real value. As such a certain amount of default well above zero is optimal to maximize the amount of real world value being generated.



>> As such a certain amount of default well above zero is optimal to maximize the amount of real world value being generated.

Someone who had worked in banking once told me they adjust lending standards to maximize profit. I was shocked that this meant about a 6-7 percent default rate on the mortgage loans. If you are too stringent you won't lend any money and if you let it flow freely you'll fail under all the defaults, so yes there is an optimal amount of failure even for the lender.


Bookmarked this post when I saw it here a while ago, seems the optimal amount of anything “bad” is non-zero

https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fra...


> you may find it easier now that you have relatively more experience than before

There's a dude on twitter who has been detailing his process of going through a bankruptcy over the last few months. I think he lost about $4M. He's discussed another business idea that he's had and his plans for implementing it. Now, a month after his bankruptcy has been final, it seems that that some investors are very interested in going forward with him on this new venture. It's likely that his openness about everything was what caught their attention.

This is how bankruptcy is supposed to work: fail at something and there's a path to recovery.


> Germany in particular takes a moralistic approach to finances that IMO harms the economy quite a bit and constrains entrepreneurship to the well connected and already established. You are only supposed to start businesses that succeed.

It's more pragmatic, than moralistic. Germany aims for high quality in business and workers, the whole system is based around this. USA seems more aiming for quantity. Just throw money at it, and see what sticks. But the difference is, USA is very big and wealthy in resources and manpower, so it can afford this. Germany, like other European countries, is rather small and lives from connecting with others. So efficiency is very important.


My experience is incomplete I will admit and possibly outdated besides, however I speak German, regularly consume a fair about of German news, and I spent a few months living in Munich. The attitude I've observed, especially among older Germans, is that buying with credit is a moral shortcoming while paying with cash is virtuous. High interest rates are considered good because they reward savers, conversely people complain about low interest rates as an injustice.

Also, Germany has the 3rd largest economy in the world, so not as large as the US or China, but I wouldn't exactly call them "small" economically.


> Also, Germany has the 3rd largest economy in the world, so not as large as the US or China, but I wouldn't exactly call them "small" economically.

US GDP: $28.7T China GDP: $18.5T Germany: $4.5T

Also, Germany is relatively small when it comes to land area, has to import most of the raw materials, and heavily relies on subcontractors from China. They do not really play in the same league as US and China.




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