Without getting into the Palestine/Israel part, something I feel strongly about but cannot phrase nicely in a pithy internet comment - I really think that for someone griping about ignoring nuance or deep analysis you are grossly mischaracterizing trans rights.
Being trans is a huge hassle, and not something done as a lark to get into female spaces. You also ignore transmasc people who are equally oppressed by the new laws coming out of places like Florida and Texas.
> Being trans is a huge hassle, and not something done as a lark to get into female spaces.
I think this might have become a little motte and bailey. There's a whole gamut of people covered by the same rule, and not just people who genuinely have gender disphoria.
There is some nuance there! See my other comment- but I wish is was motte and bailey, that would mean that in general trans rights are respected and I can retreat into the motte of that.
But what's happening in Florida and elsewhere is oppression of any transness, including what you call "genuine". This sort of anti-all-trans ideology has a lot of support unfortunately. And a common tactic by this sort is to pick at only the controversial parts that are right wing talking points.
> Even though much of the actual conflict here is a reaction to males demanding to use female spaces. Any sexism against actual women in this context is disregarded and discarded.
is not true. Being trans of any sort is under attack from the right, see: recent laws in Florida. Calling other people unnuanced while saying this is silly.
My second point is that arguing specific controversial details is a losing battle. Like any group, the left has differences in opinion. I don't want the battles to be infighting about details while we're losing the war.
I have some complicated opinions on this but I'm not going to say them here because that's not going to help anything.
I say this only to clear up the misconception that the left is unnanced in general. Sticking to easy slogans is what works best in hostile online flame threads and if that's all you're looking at I can see why it could come off that way. But if you talk to someone in a friendly noncombattative way I think they will be more likely to share more subtle takes. That's all.
If I can be annoying about language a bit- insisting on calling trans women "trans identifying males" makes you sound anti-trans rights as a whole instead of trying to add nuance to a complicated subject.
I agree there are complications and there's plenty of situations where one oppressed group opresses another and that those are hard to sort out on a purely "support the oppressed" ideology. But when someone starts talking purely about a specific nuance that's been made into a right wing talking point, its hard not to feel like the goal is to deliberately distract from the big picture.
In general though, I think you mischaracterize the left as not having nuance, instead of not wanting to debate nuance with people who are staunchly opposed and just trying to score points. I'm not saying that's what you're going for, but your first comment came off as combatative to me and I think you'll find people are more willing to share nuance and work through uncomfortable contradictions if you start by emphasizing what you do agree with. Talking IRL is much better with this too
"Trans Identifying Males" is a shibboleth used by the UK "gender critical" extremists, and it is exceedingly rare to see it used by a neutral party. Big red flag for a bad faith discussion.
It is a term that comes from gender-critical feminism but this is a mainstream view in the UK, there's nothing extremist about it. It's effectively a sensible middle ground between anti-trans parochialism and trans rights dogma.
Even the term "trans-identifying male" is a middle-ground compromise, to avoid calling them men and to not cede the argument by referring to them as women. In my experience, the most thoughtful and well-considered discussion on this topic has been with gender-critical feminists who have thought critically about their perspective and have it based in the material reality of sex.
Being trans is a huge hassle, and not something done as a lark to get into female spaces. You also ignore transmasc people who are equally oppressed by the new laws coming out of places like Florida and Texas.