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This seems like first generation vehicle problems to me. There is an old saying that you never buy the first model year of any vehicle, especially if it is a brand new vehicle and not just a refresh.


It doesn’t seem to happen in other companies…


Other companies like Toyota, with their reputation of legendary quality?

Toyota's wheels have been literally falling off.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/cars/toyota-bz4x-tundra-recal...

You just don't hear about things like that because every single Tesla recall makes the HN front page and is all over the media, even if it's just a software update, a details that omitted on purpose in the headlines.


I’m specifically referring to introducing steps into the manufacturing process with no oversight, which the (now flagged) post was saying Musk couldn’t foresee.


There was a major airbag flaw which affected most cars from Japan for like a decade, and it just kept growing. I always kind of assumed that was if there was a recall of that magnitude out of the blue it would rock a lot of boats so it was trickled out. *Takata I believe.

This one does seem a lot more stupid though.


The faulty airbag manufacturer was Takata. It wasn't just Japanese brands affected: Ford and BMW also used those airbags.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle-safety/takata-recall-spotlight


Takata is the airbag company, Takeda is a pharma corp.


I’m specifically referring to introducing steps into the manufacturing process with no oversight, which the (now flagged) post was saying Musk couldn’t foresee.


Yes it does, it just doesn't make the news.


I’m specifically referring to introducing steps into the manufacturing process with no oversight, which the (now flagged) post was saying Musk couldn’t foresee.


You might have missed some recent news about Boeing...


Not a car company


I’m specifically referring to introducing steps into the manufacturing process with no oversight, which the (now flagged) post was saying Musk couldn’t foresee.


That doesn't make Boeing a car company.


If you're being specific and you only think car companies are relevant, maybe you should have said that.



Swell. You know how to do recursion.


Not clear if you are being sarcastic or not, recalls are way more common in other brands, with Ford leading the charts on number of recalls. https://www.powernationtv.com/post/auto-brands-with-the-most...


This is an area where recalls is a bad metric. It could be that a company with high rates of recalls is actually very good and just issues recalls for smaller things while other companies don’t.


I’m specifically referring to introducing steps into the manufacturing process with no oversight, which the (now flagged) post was saying Musk couldn’t foresee. I’m not talking about recalls, which obviously do happen.


Recalls are automotive equivalent of security updates. Testing catch bugs but not all of it, and while a bug-free software won't ever get a patch release in theory, in reality it means the software is not maintained.


SpaceX had him busy single-handedly designing rockets.




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