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> foreign intelligence is outside the purview of a domestic municipal police department

Demonstrably, not the NYPD's.

> US does not allow foreign municipalities to install police departments on US soil

Sure. But those foreign countries allowed them. And again, nobody is granting the NYPD extraterritorial policing powers. They're there to collaborate on intelligence.



>> foreign intelligence is outside the purview of a domestic municipal police department

> Demonstrably, not the NYPD's.

Is it demonstrable? Allow me to skeptical until New York's Finest crack a case that the NSA, CIA, and FBI can't handle.

This looks like a cushy assignment for some people with union pull.


The NYPD has had a Joint Terrorism Task Force with the FBI since 1980.

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism/joint-terrorism-ta...


And not what we're talking about. Not even relevant.

You want an actual relevant link? Here you go!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/nyregion/terrorism-nypd-i...

>Other law enforcement and intelligence agencies, particularly the F.B.I. and C.I.A., have opposed the department’s overseas deployment. Mr. Kelly was criticized for sharing information about terror attacks in London in 2005 and Mumbai in 2008. Federal officials have also complained about the police “freelancing” their own terrorism investigations.

What are these "terrorism" investigations? Jewelry store robberies.

>But Chief Galati said the mission of the program had shifted over time, and these days his officers were investigating other crimes. “As it evolved from terrorism, we started to see more and more criminal cases coming up,” Chief Galati said. He cited an instance where some of the $800,000 worth of watches taken in a December 2017 gunpoint robbery from the A. Lange & Söhne boutique on Madison Avenue were tracked down to a pawnshop in Amman, Jordan. “The world is a small place,” Chief Galati said.


> Is it demonstrable? Allow me to skeptical until New York's Finest crack a case that the NSA, CIA, and FBI can't handle.

It's demonstrable that foreign intelligence is within the NYPD's purview given they're doing it. No claims were made about efficacy.

Also, I don't think the NYPD aims to crack cases the Feds can't. It's more about directing resources towards areas they believe the Fed's aren't monitoring effectively or won't commit the resources they believe it deserves. If something were picked up, the NYPD would loop in the Feds.


>It's demonstrable that foreign intelligence is within the NYPD's purview given they're doing it. No claims were made about efficacy.

No. If an animal control officer starts delivering mail, that doesn’t mean mail delivery is now part of the Department of Fish and Game.

There is a terms for this: a bureaucratic overreach, wasteful government spending, a distraction.

What do you think a city cop can even do in a foreign country? What resource does the NYPD even have?? Who is going to say, “I can’t talk the local cops, or the local intelligence agency, nor can I tell the Americans directly, but maybe i can tell some foreign country’s local cop! But I can’t just tell them directly. If only this foreign country’s local police had an office here!”

An NYPD cop has less training and less resources than someone working for a federal intelligence agency. That’s just the truth. It’s a post-9/11 grift founded by former police commissioner, convicted felon, and embezzler, Bernie Kerik.

That’s what it is. It’s obvious, and it was obvious almost 23 years ago. Come on! The NYPD Israeli office isn’t even in the Israeli capital. It’s in a beach resort!




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