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“Good” is subjective. My idea of a good car is something that can get me from A-B, can hold dogs and be cleaned up easily, can tow a few thousand pounds in a pinch, doesn’t get stuck in the steep and muddy hills around my house, doesn’t break the bank, and it would be nice if it didn’t spy on me and have a giant shiny console in my field of view.



2010 Subaru Forester or equivalent.


What you’re describing is lower end “Car SE” that’d be available in a few years.


That's iCar SE.




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