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GM plans to phase out CarPlay in EVs, with Google’s help https://hackernews.hn/item?id=35389021 (38 days ago, 377 comments)



Kind of, but not really. What GM is proposing here goes even deeper.

There are three current solutions -

- (2018 -> Today) Some existing solution that runs QNX as the base OS, that runs Android Auto / Carplay as an Application

- (2023 - > Today) A new based OS that is a skinned version of Android Automotive OS (AAOS / https://developers.google.com/cars/design/automotive-os) that runs both Android Auto Carplay and Carplay as an application, with the Automaker working with Google to incorporate customizations along with patches and updates to the base OS. Think Samsung's customized version of Android, and how they work to implement patches for major OS updates from ASOP. The infotainment used on General Motor's Global B architecture uses this.

- This proposal (2025 Model Year -> Future) - runs a customized version of AAOS that does not have Android Auto / Carplay support. My guess is that Google is throwing them a bone here and offering extra support for the Automaker (deferring the Automaker's costs) if the Automaker allows Google to retain the usage data.


I figured it was this. I mean, my car runs Ford Sync3 that runs CarPlay/AA (built by MS) and AAOS seems to compete directly with that.

The flamebait position trumpeted by GM CEO seems to be "we won't enable the CarPlay/AA app" but that could be reversed quite quickly when they realize customers don't want the builtin AAOS or AAOS doesn't do what CarPlay/AA can do.

The alternative is that AAOS has Apple Music and other apps built in (probably not Apple Maps) - like what you see with Tesla. I wonder if Apple will concede to this.


Red Hat is also making a move here, not at the UI layer but supporting RHEL in an automotive environment. It could be interesting to make these systems accessible to more software developers and appear a bit closer to cloud/web service/AI software stacks.


That's an amazing read. The GM guy is shamelessly going on and on about all the ways he will ruin the experience for drivers, so he can extract more money from them with hardware lock-in.

Google will cancel the project within a year after launching.


This is the one thing I would love to see Google cancel, lmao.




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