It's 2023 and we are still having this discussion because of mainstream flawed philosophy shoved in our throats every single day.
Matter, in the philosophical sence, is not to be confused whith the concept of mass in physics. The philosophical concept of matter encompases everything that exists (indepedent of individual experience). Existence != mass (eg light). Critiquing the "emergencene" of conciousness from matter as a leap of logic is like saying it's a logical leap to talk of breathing as a emergent property of the respiratory system.
Breathing is not a "thing" you can touch, but i bet you, you'll get into some very big trouble if you stop doing it.
Better to think of it as a process. We can agree that processes are real, yet don't consist of mas.
Same goes for consiousness. And the same goes for a gazillion things that are very very real, but do not fit into the mental bucket of holding some mass with your hands
Matter, in the philosophical sence, is not to be confused whith the concept of mass in physics. The philosophical concept of matter encompases everything that exists (indepedent of individual experience). Existence != mass (eg light). Critiquing the "emergencene" of conciousness from matter as a leap of logic is like saying it's a logical leap to talk of breathing as a emergent property of the respiratory system.
Breathing is not a "thing" you can touch, but i bet you, you'll get into some very big trouble if you stop doing it.
Better to think of it as a process. We can agree that processes are real, yet don't consist of mas.
Same goes for consiousness. And the same goes for a gazillion things that are very very real, but do not fit into the mental bucket of holding some mass with your hands