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Sometimes the labeling is correct.


All these people being pissed off from these comments just shows it's the counter culture. I'm not wrong. The more downvotes I get the more I know it's on the target.


The thing that really shocked me was watching an episode of South Park.

The boys all got into airsoft, and really enjoyed it (in contrast to a bunch of older jaded teens that used drugs and were largely miserable.)

The dads weren't sure about letting their boys play, but when they saw the teens picking on their kids, went and bought a bunch of tactical gear and airsoft guns and went on the field with their kids.

Oh, and the kid that didn't have a dad? They got an uncle to stand in for him.

This is the show that my parents warned me about as a kid for how sacrilegious and profane they were. It came out like it was directed by Jordan Peterson. I mentioned this to a friend, and he responded... "Well, that show has always been counter culture."


South Park isn't really counterculture. It takes low-effort shots at everyone regardless of the merits of the target's position. Rarely, they have a moment where the unique naivety of the targeting falls just right and you get a decent episode.


That shown has been around for a long time and has changed a lot. When they folded and censored their own episode criticizing extremest Islam they lost a lot of edge/credibility.


They had an earlier episode that showed Muhammad for a bit.


> vaccines are supposed to provide immunity (not "protection")

This is, in fact, wrong. Vaccines can't give us immunity.

"We’re Asking the Impossible of Vaccines"

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/09/steriliz...

> Complete protection against infection has long been hailed as the holy grail of vaccination. It might simply be unachievable.

> No infection means no disease, no death, and no transmission, the absolute immunological trifecta. It’s why sterilizing immunity has often been framed as a “holy grail,”

> COVID-19 vaccines were never going to give us sterilizing immunity; it’s possible they never will. But the reason isn’t just their design, or the wily nature of the virus, or heavy and frequent exposures, though those factors all play a role. It’s that sterilizing immunity itself might be a biological myth.


This is a bit of a mischaracterization of what he was trying to say I think. The immunizations we’re all used to like the TDAP, MMR, and Hep B are so effective that if you have the shot your immune system will react very well and prevent symptomatic and communicable disease. Yes some infections slip through the cracks for various circumstances (immune compromise, waning immunity, simple chance).

The seasonal flu vaccine I understand at least. Influenza is a difficult virus to target and regular antigenic shift/drift make effective vaccines really tough to make.

The covid vaccine doesn’t provide enough protection to prevent infection and communicable disease. It’s not great it’s not even good. I was infected with it right after my first pfizer shot. I’m 5 shots deep and most of my colleagues at work have been infected multiple times and they’re mostly 4 shots deep. Coronaviruses are difficult viruses to target for vaccines, they’re enveloped and mutate. Why are these particular vaccines which are pretty mediocre being pushed so hard? The mRNA strategy targeting them is intellectually interesting however not good enough. Maybe they should try a different route or just give it a God damn rest.


See, so I am right that this is counter culture? I said this and it triggered you to jump and respond with fact checks and whatever.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060212064058/https://www.merri...

Can also show you that the dominant medical narrative around vaccines was that they provide immunity (except in the case of immune compromised individuals).

To this day I'm actually astonished watching the entire medical consensus shift as a direct result for the failure of the COVID vaccines. Absolute objective failure.

What's even more surprising to me is watching the entire narrative move around instead of acknowledging this. Instead of acknowledging the truth, the definitions move around so that the truth is redefined.

The definition of vaccine (provides immunity), recession (two quarters of contraction), woman (female with XX chromosomes), election, freedom (from doing what you want to "the ability to choose"), family (husband, wife and kids), democracy, peaceful ("protests"), racism (treating someone differently because of race, now you're racist for not giving preferential treatment to some1). Global warming became climate change. I've watched how in very few years the entire world has been reprogrammed with new definitions for these like ChatGPT. They kept getting bombarded with new definitions, so that lies will be redefined to be truths.

It is absolutely ridiculous to watch and realize how the media could train people like some neural network to lose the meanings of words and the relation to reality. It is watching people being reprogrammed into newspeak where they literally can't understand what's wrong because the meaning of all words have been replaced in their minds, so they can't have controversial thoughts.

It has become impossible to communicate. It's like talking to ChatGPT trained on some corrupt input, they are writing the same letters and speaking the same syllables but they have a different mental model. There are no other words describing the concepts they have lost, so at this point it's like speaking in two different languages. You'll say they don't have freedom and they will reply that they can choose what they want to do. In 10 years they will own nothing and be happy, because they will redefine rented property to be "yours".


> The definition of vaccine (provides immunity),

I kinda agree with you except about vaccines. The seasonal flu vaccines are nowhere close to giving immunity and predates COVID-19.


The excuses made for flu vaccines (there are many strains of flu after generations of different strains circulating and diverging), don't apply to COVID.

It's pretty obvious they started to redefine what vaccine does right around the time the COVID vaccine failed. The tests used to authorize the vaccines supposedly showed 95% efficiency doing just that.

The narrative shift was extremely sharp.


There were so many narrative shifts during COVID-19 I lost count. I dunno where the blame is due. But the most disturbing thing was the stigmatization of countrarians even though "the facts" shifted left and right.


> The definition of vaccine (provides immunity)

"That technical coarseness might help explain why several historical vaccines have been assumed to be sterilizing. With measles, for instance, scientists initially lacked the tests needed to show them otherwise" (from the Atlantic article)

> recession (two quarters of contraction),

"Is Recession Staring Us Down? Already Upon Us? Here’s Why It’s Hard to Say. The U.S. may register a second straight quarter of economic contraction, one benchmark of a recession. But that won’t be the last word. Most economists still don’t think the United States meets the formal definition, which is based on a broader set of indicators, including measures of income, spending and job growth." (New York Times)

> woman (female with XX chromosomes),

"Gender is a complex interaction of underlying biological difference and social norms, not a simplistic either/or" (The Atlantic)

> freedom (from doing what you want to "the ability to choose")

"Freedom Means Doing Whatever You Want?"

"Before getting to the debate, we have to mention two key ideas about what freedom means. The first is that no one has absolute freedom in the sense of having the power to disengage completely from societal norms and values. The second idea is related to the fact that freedom doesn’t just entail the choice between one action or another. It extends to thoughts and emotions as well. All of us have some freedom to choose what we think and feel. We also have to consider the responsibility that is attached to the willingness and ability to choose." https://exploringyourmind.com/freedom-mean-doing-whatever-yo...

> family (husband, wife and kids),

"What is a “family”? Statistically, it is no longer a mother, a father and their biological children living together under one roof (and certainly not with Dad going off to work and Mom staying home). Although perception and acceptance often lag behind reality, there is evidence that a new definition of family — while far from universally accepted — is emerging." (New York Times)


Thanks for citing all those mainstream media news. Too bad I don't shape my perception of reality on their nonsense. They are literally just other humans. You have no common sense firewall or consistency if you allow these people to reprogram you. You're just proving my point that these deconstruction of language and values come from the media.

Get some common sense anti virus for your brain. You're being fed bad training input to get the desired output. The desired output is having a dumb society of wage slaves who get to choose between two options and think they are free.

Society of people where you can keep suggesting terrible "choices" to people like self genital mutilation (the real choice being self-acceptance), killing fetuses (the real choice was making the fetus in the first place), and picking between two equally corrupt parties, or losing your job and taking a worthless vaccine. And those sheep in that society will reprogram themselves to only act on the choices presented and never think for themselves.

Society where the only non-binary choice you get to make, is quite ironically, "your gender", which is literally the most binary non-choice you're ever given. But of course the maximum false choices presented will be where you don't really have a choice at all.


At least, vaccine providing immunity (or, at least, protection, even if complete immunity is difficult) is the intention; but they are not 100% effective, and sometimes may have side effects. However, they are usually better than nothing. (But, sometimes the companies that make them will even be dishonest, to try to earn more money; this possibility should not be ignored.)

I suspect that the COVID-19 vaccines have not been properly tested for side effects that do not occur until many years have passed, because they did not have enough time to make these tests. (Only side effects that occur quickly would have been tested.)

I cannot comment properly about "recession" because it is not something that I am familiar with.

Not everyone's chromosomes are XX and XY, and while this usually makes you female or male sometimes there are exceptions, and then there is intersex, also. However, this is not the same as "gender identity" and "gender expression" (which I think are unnecessary, since you can just do how you like to do regardless of that; but if people want to do it anyways I do not intend to stop them, since they have freedom to do what they like), although they are usually correlated to the biological sex. Really, it isn't so simple, as they say it is (such things are like abbreviations to explain common circumstances; like an other words (in any other context, explaining about something entirely unrelated, even), they cannot possibly explain everything).

Sometimes words are not used so clearly, but that was true in the past and is true today too. Meaning of words often are shifted due to many reasons, and sometimes some meaning becomes more common than other meaning of the words. Describing clearly what you mean, would be a good idea; unfortunately, too often they instead want to avoid being offended instead of being clearly what you mean. I think that clearly what you mean is more important, although if you can also avoid being offensive at the same time then it should usually be good to do both, isn't it?

(I don't say always, because there are so many things that you cannot predict and many things can be all difference from each other. Only if you do mathematics can you potentially prove that some property of a number will be "always".)

The ability to choose is not the same as the freedom to choose (and to do what you want); you should need both. Freedom of speech definitely is important (including opposing views than each other, and also the third way, and even the fourth way and fifth way, too).

As other comment mention, also you will need freedom to think and to feel, too, as well as freedom to do something. However, just because something is freedom, you should still consider if it is a good idea or not, in this circumstances. Whatever your position is, you should be prepared to argument, whether it is a common opinion, or if it is against the common opinion, or both or neither (such consideration as both/neither is often ignored too much, I think).

Unfortunately, the Conspiracy tries to hide many things that you are trying to be freedom, and are trying to control you.

For example, many people actually were opposed to copyright (and other things, too), but the Conspiracy would not show that study (people have made such a thing, but they refused to pay for it) to others. When the Conspiracy made their own study, they would say the methods are secret. Well, the methods are secret is not the proper way to make a scientific experiment, isn't it?

Other ways this trying to change the freedom, are done includes by peer pressure, by claiming to being "offensive", etc.

However, the true freedom is not only the freedom to speak but also the freedom that others are allowed to speak against you (you can choose to listen or not).

Husband/wife/kids is not the only family, it is just one of them. Family is they are related. This includes also grandparents/aunt/uncle/siblings/etc. People who are married are usually not so closely related to each other. However, really everyone are going to be related even distantly, even the trees are your distant relatives too. And then, there is also such thing as adoptive families, and married without children, orphans, etc; so, there is many more complicated than the simplified description only.

Some protests are more or less peaceful than others, and some things that are peaceful may be protest and some aren't.

Unfortunately, many people think that, if you are good then the opposite is bad, if you are one kind of thing then the opposite is the opposite kind of thing, etc. But, that is no good. Things have to be properly considered and nuanced.

Racism is no good, but that should not mean you have to give preferential treatment to someone. It also should not mean that you have to make "diversity" hiring, etc. If you are hiring, you can hire anyone (black people, white people, men, women, Christian, Hindu, atheists, height, etc) but to do by if they are competent at that job (or can learn), and not by skin colours, etc. Depending what people are in this area, you might or might not get many black people there; but, as long as whoever they are, is good at this work, then that is good.

In some businesses (e.g. movies) it may be helpful to have many different "diversity" of people, although this still does not mean that they should not be hiring based on if you are good actors. They are good actors for movies that are needing, more importantly. However, sometimes people with specific visual appearance or voice (or other things such as languages) may be helpful for some kinds of roles in a movie, but they need not appear in every movie; they can make many different ones.

However, if they make a lot of different movies (which can actually be difference, rather than just making too many similar things) then it can hopefully be made better (although, some will be no good, but that is, you have to try).

Global warming became climate change presumably to show that there are changes other than only the heat. However, while it does that, it also fails to indicate some of the kind of changes (although, it is inevitable, unless you use too many words).

Yes, it really is difficult to communicate.

And, unfortunately, many things considered are not considered nuanced very well, either, it seems like to me too.

Generally, being clearly and precisely is good, but sometimes some things may be unnecessary, too many words, or unknown, etc, that you might indicate otherwise. Words are inherently usually not always precision. (For example, my mention of "the Conspiracy" is not precise but it is good enough for the reasons I was trying to communicate.)

And then, sometimes they think that things are same or similar things that use the same words, even though they do not match, and the words/phrases can have different meanings by the context. (One example, is word such as "Aries", "Gemini", etc are the names of constellations but also the names of astrological signs; however, constellations and astrological signs are not the same thing. Astrological signs are the measure of ecliptic longitude, each one 30 degrees. Although good arguments could be made against astrology, many people make bad arguments instead, because they do not understand what I had just mentioned.)

I don't really expect them to "redefine rented property to be yours", although it does seem likely that it will try to be hidden that it "isn't yours", in an attempt for the Conspiracy to control you in this way. In some contexts it might be useful to say it is "yours" temporarily, but that should not be confused for what it is, despite whatever word you might use; and unfortunately such confusion is common.

People can still have controversial thoughts, although often it is difficult to communicate and/or is often ignored. However, this isn't really new; it happens in the past too, but usually in different ways.

Nevertheless, freedom of speech is important, regardless of what your opinion is. Someone else must have the freedom to argue against it too, because that is also freedom of speech.




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