Yup and Windows 10 was the last version of Windows.

That wasn't from an official rep.

And they did for 9.5 years.

I'm personally happy that they maintained this for so long. Even if the apps were to get merged, I'd mostly be content.

The data sharing between the 2 services has mostly gotten them to a point where they both give very comfortable estimates about traffic.

Waze is still better because someone Maps will tell you to turn too early when Waze's timing is more realistic.

Though I'm not a direct user, I've recently seen Waze has some glaring errors that Google Maps doesn't - especially on "special" days.

I saw the most spectacular failure like this on Good Friday this year, where I had to take a cross-town trip and Waze was telling my Bolt driver that it would take 2h+ (and trying to make them avoid all large roads), when in reality and in Google Maps, the city was essentially empty and the trip took ~30 minutes.

The 2h+ estimate was definitely correct for a normal day, but that day was part of a long weekend and no one was around, and yet Waze had absolutely no idea. Even on normal days, it typically significantly overestimates how long rush hour lasts by at least another hour.

Maybe this is somehow specific to my city, but at least it shows that in some places Google Maps and Waze use significantly different data (or weigh different sources very differently).

I'd be shocked if there is 5% of the original Waze OR Google Maps teams from 10 years ago.

You'll be surprised - that's all I'll say about that

"Always" as in mIRC. I jest, but in software it often does make sense to consider a decade to be solid lifecycle. LTS releases of Ubuntu live the order of a decade [0], for example. Consider any existence beyond that to be a reincarnation.

But we should find a better way to describe this than using language like "always" and "forever"...

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases

I'm curious because I don't get the reference as a longtime mIRC user. When did mIRC use the "relative always"?

mIRC ended its lifetime license agreement with all who purchased its software 10 years out. Discussion here: https://hackernews.hn/item?id=33864660

Wow, that's really egregious.

I started using mIRC as a teenager, I had almost no money so used pirated versions. Many years later, since the program gave me many hours of enjoyment (and through it I had the first conversations the person who is now my wife, no less!), I bought a couple of licenses because I felt I owed it to the devs.

I don't regret doing that, of course... but there's no way I'll be renewing my lifetime licenses. The contract I signed gave me a lifetime right to use the software so my understanding is that if the dev wants to remove that right from me, it's completely legitimate to resort to piracy, and I doubt a court could say otherwise.

You can send him an e-mail and get an extended license. Not saying he's right or wrong, but it's not like anyone lost their access, or future updates of the product here.

I believe that clause had an end date of 5 years after the acquisition, google kept their end far longer than that, but it’s still sad to see