This is a gishgallop of modern pedophilia-associating talking points from the first sentence onward. ("sexually regressive trend of calling our children's bodies defective and broken because they don't match the viewers' sexual stereotypes" WHAT??)
There's just so much that is horrifically wrong and sounds like a FOX News watcher's sweaty fantasy of what they think transgenderism is.
It absolutely is a partisan issue, only insofar as the "classic liberals" on HackerNews who are promoting this transphobia haven't understood yet that they are not as centrist as they'd like to believe.
I don't know where an of these facts come from, but let's just knock out some bulletpoints:
* Transgenderism is testable, evaluatable, and has little to do with gender stereotypes like a boy playing with dolls
* A boy can absolutely wear a dress to elementary school without a teacher starting talk of transition.
* But you're also dreaming if you think at any point - 30 years ago, 15 years ago, or now - a boy can wear a dress to school and not get bullied by a meaningful percentage of his male peers.
* All transgender counselling starts with pre-existing condition consideration. As a trans friend of mine said "The first thing my transition counsellor asked me to do was quit my job. We needed to make sure I wasn't just depressed because I hated my job so much"
* Is my claim about low rates of transition regret incorrect, or is it that my comparison is exceptionally misleading because it IS correct? Which is it?
>There's just so much that is horrifically wrong and sounds like a FOX News watcher's sweaty fantasy of what they think transgenderism is.
I'm the original poster you had originally replied to. I rarely see any Fox news content. I bet you see more fox news content than I do. Trying to associate a viewpoint with some news agency in the USA seems quite odd to me.
>It absolutely is a partisan issue, only insofar as the "classic liberals" on HackerNews who are promoting this transphobia haven't understood yet that they are not as centrist as they'd like to believe.
Or there is legitimate cause for concern and there's no transphobia at all. This isn't a partisan problem.
>* Transgenderism is testable, evaluatable, and has little to do with gender stereotypes like a boy playing with dolls
So you would agree we don't approve any surgeries or medication until there is a testable evaluatable test results confirming diagnosis with 0% detransition risk?
>* A boy can absolutely wear a dress to elementary school without a teacher starting talk of transition.
Videos on tiktok show quite the opposite. Dress wearing not even necessary.
>* But you're also dreaming if you think at any point - 30 years ago, 15 years ago, or now - a boy can wear a dress to school and not get bullied by a meaningful percentage of his male peers.
Was explicitly not allowed in my high school.
>* All transgender counselling starts with pre-existing condition consideration. As a trans friend of mine said "The first thing my transition counsellor asked me to do was quit my job. We needed to make sure I wasn't just depressed because I hated my job so much"
This story is older than perhaps about 7 years or so. wpath rules changed, the counsellors dont work this way anymore. It's considered a crime in Canada for a counsellor to do this.
There is nothing inherently partisan about disagreeing with the ideology of gender identity and its effects on law and policy.
In particular, opposition to this in the UK has been spearheaded by left-wing, grassroots feminist groups. This was in reaction to the right-wing Conservative government's proposals to allow people to change their legal sex by self-declaration, rather than the current system of requiring a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and approval from a panel of people with legal and medical qualifications.
As a culture war topic on twitter, maybe. But as a parenting issue, no.
> this transphobia
Facts aren't phobia.
> Transgenderism is testable, evaluatable, and has little to do with gender stereotypes like a boy playing with dolls
Which test? Is it medical and objective or based on self-reported feelings? Would you accept the answer if your government wanted to test and label you with it? Should Iran use it?
The trans community can't even decide if trans is a medical or mental condition or lifestyle choice. There certainly isn't a test for it or we'd have answers to those questions. If you insist there's a test that means you think trans is a condition which would make you a transmedicalist, or 'truscum' as they're called.
> A boy can absolutely wear a dress to elementary school without a teacher starting talk of transition.
No, counsellors and teachers speak of recognizing "cross-sex behaviors" in students. You can hear them in their own words in their tiktok videos.
Recently a friend's daughter has been "socially transitioned" at school. The teachers noticed she wasn't being feminine enough (our and her words, as we discuss it) and suggested she may be happier as a male so they gave her a new name and access to clothes while at school and most critically, told her not to tell her parents. Thankfully she had been told this is a red flag and did not comply.
> All transgender counselling starts with pre-existing condition consideration. As a trans friend of mine said "The first thing my transition counsellor asked me to do was quit my job. We needed to make sure I wasn't just depressed because I hated my job so much"
Ouch, that's bad counseling. Asking patients to make major upheavals just sets them up for failure. The proper aim is to give them tools to achieve their goals without disruption and a therapist should only recommend immediate large changes if a patient is in imminent risk.
Also, I know more personally that proper counseling is not always applied. My friend's daughter had legitimate reasons to be depressed but says that the counsellor they had her see did not examine any of them or ask about abuse and only discussed gender.
> Is my claim about low rates of transition regret incorrect, or is it that my comparison is exceptionally misleading? Which is it?
It's both. The studies you refer to do not actually show that the numbers are low because they fail to properly follow the transitioners, AND your comparison to knee surgery was misleading because you've cherrypicked one of the most regretted surgeries.
There's just so much that is horrifically wrong and sounds like a FOX News watcher's sweaty fantasy of what they think transgenderism is.
It absolutely is a partisan issue, only insofar as the "classic liberals" on HackerNews who are promoting this transphobia haven't understood yet that they are not as centrist as they'd like to believe.
I don't know where an of these facts come from, but let's just knock out some bulletpoints:
* Transgenderism is testable, evaluatable, and has little to do with gender stereotypes like a boy playing with dolls
* A boy can absolutely wear a dress to elementary school without a teacher starting talk of transition.
* But you're also dreaming if you think at any point - 30 years ago, 15 years ago, or now - a boy can wear a dress to school and not get bullied by a meaningful percentage of his male peers.
* All transgender counselling starts with pre-existing condition consideration. As a trans friend of mine said "The first thing my transition counsellor asked me to do was quit my job. We needed to make sure I wasn't just depressed because I hated my job so much"
* Is my claim about low rates of transition regret incorrect, or is it that my comparison is exceptionally misleading because it IS correct? Which is it?