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We're already short on housing even with this to the degree that real wages have stagnated or shrank since the 1970s. The only way to do that would be to almost completely stop immigration and population growth.


> We're already short on housing

The US has plenty of housing. It's just not where the jobs are. With the automation of agriculture and moving manufacturing to other countries, the employment map of the US changed rapidly in the past few decades, and our physical infrastructure hasn't caught up yet.

> The only way to do that would be to almost completely stop immigration and population growth.

Even with immigration, US population growth is nearly flat now: https://www.brookings.edu/research/u-s-population-growth-has...

Assuming current trends continue (and I see no reason they wouldn't), the US will probably be net negative relatively soon. I know so many young people who have no plans to have children because they can't afford it and don't want to bring them into a world they think will be in a worse state than the one they grew up in.


Tangentially, I am amazed at the data in your source about how fast population growth is leveling off in the US. In 2020, the census projected US population to continue growing and cross 400 million by 2058 [1]. This projection accounts for the observed trends in falling fertility rate and assumes relatively constant rate of immigration:

>By 2030, immigration is projected to become the primary driver of population >growth: more people are projected to be added to the population through net >international migration than from natural increase. The projected shift to net >international immigration as the primary driver of population growth is the >result of falling fertility rates and the rising number of deaths in an aging >population, not because of a projected increase in international migration.

I guess the pandemic broke a lot of those assumptions. We will see if they hold in the long run though.

[1]: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publicatio...


Nah. Even in rural places with no jobs you can see sheds going for half a million.


Where? Look almost anywhere east of the Rockies and you should be able to find plenty of rural housing for much less.

https://www.redfin.com/KS/Leavenworth/1218-Limit-St-66048/ho...


That house is a third of a million dollars in a rural place, that's what I'm talking about.


That house is 3,300 sq feet, with a basement, built in 1980 for only $300k. It is also only 22min from Kansas City airport and 40min from Kansas City.

I imagine rural sheds can be found for much less than $500k.


Here’s a shack for $120k

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/522-West-Maple-Street-Spo...

Even has running water and electricity!


Or you could build up.

Even most of NYC and Paris is not THAT dense.


Apartments and houses are different things and building up never seems to really lower the pressure on the housing market.


> Apartments and houses are different things.

Sure, and so are houses with white picket fences and town houses. What's your point?

> building up never seems to really lower the pressure on the housing market.

You can't really find any examples measured in a vacuum. But I guess you've already made up your mind anyway.


I’d really like to see more Parisian style density.

I really find it hard to believe we could triple the density of major cities and magically there’d never be empty housing. At some point demand will drop off.




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