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How is the second claim inaccurate? I'm aware of a few retaliatory counter-suits but none that were initiated from the Android side.


That's because there isn't an Android side. There's an HTC side, and a Samsung side, and a Motorola side, and so on.


Vivid picture of this so called "coordination" showing that claim is complete B.S.:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/floorsixtyfour/5061246255/

So "does it look coordinated to you?" On the contrary, it's chaos, but Google wanted in, really badly. Well, this isn't their daddy's monopoly, and it's not all about them.

(Also, in general, the newcomer doesn't assert patents against the old guard. It's not a conspiracy -- Google just got here last.)

Google, to fix this, stop whining about a few players amassing more toys at 5x the estimate when you only bid 4x the estimate, and do something about disarming the weapons instead.

Don't like "bogus" patents because they were invented before you thought of making a phone and you didn't get them for pi? Boo hoo.

Don't like patents at all? Great, let's go there.


The existence of hundreds of suits doesn't do anything against the claim that Android and Google are being effectively picked on by Apple and Microsoft and when they go in together to keep Google/Android from having leverage against such suits... Or do you still feel that my description is a mischaracterization of the events surrounding the sale of both the Novell and Nortel patents?

How many arrows are coming out of Google's bubble on that diagram?


> "when they go in together to keep Google"

Don't see any arrows out of Microsoft or Apple at Google either. Google's failed bid doesn't make them the center of the universe.

Apple learned a couple years earlier it's an arms race after they got hit from all sides. Lucky for them, they'd been doing handheld R&D for over two decades, and were able to fight back.

Despite its investment in Intellectual Ventures, Google hasn't stockpiled enough relevant ammo yet. They were trying hard to get some, to play the cold war detente licensing game the way the others were playing it long before Google or even Apple showed up, but 4x didn't beat 5x, and now they're trying PR as a tactic.

And yes, the existence of 50 arrows pointing at not Google compared to 3 at Google (from companies not shipping phones) does do something against the claim Google is being picked on.


>Don't see any arrows out of Microsoft or Apple at Google either.

And that's a fault of the image. On the other hand, I'm not aware of any suits levied by Google in relation to Android.

>Despite its investment in Intellectual Ventures, Google hasn't stockpiled enough relevant ammo yet. They were trying hard to get some, to play the cold war detente licensing game the way the others were playing it long before Google or even Apple showed up, but 4x didn't beat 5x, and now they're trying PR as a tactic.

I don't understand. If you grant that Google was trying to buy the patents defensively, then what is your problem with their "PR as a tactic", it fits perfectly in with their story. They wanted to buy the patents so that they would have leverage to protect themselves and HTC/Samsung/Moto who have been sued and are paying out to Apple and Microsoft. It didn't work so their only remaining stance is to argue that the system is wrong. The fact that they tried to excel or protect their interests, considering that their partners are very currently and very really having to pay out to Microsoft, doesn't seem to damage their stance in my opinion. The act of defensively buying patents and calling the system broken are not mutually exclusive.

>And yes, the existence of 50 arrows pointing at not Google compared to 3 at Google (from companies not shipping phones) does do something against the claim Google is being picked on.

I've not seen anyone claiming that "everyone who's not Google" is teaming up against Google. But I and others are suggesting that Apple and Microsoft collaborating to buy patents that would prevent HTC from having to give Microsoft $5 for every handset sold... is at least cause for suspicion of collusion.


Look at that picture again. If you're in the middle of that, you try to spend the least amount possible that results in detente. No conspiracy needed.




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