> But it isn't a well-rounded laptop because of the screen size, OS, lack of GPU power, etc.
You are off in the sticks. By your definition, nothing is "Well rounded". Every product is designed for a purpose. Value is about how well a product suits its that purpose. When I buy a hammer, I don't complain because it doesn't work as a screwdriver.
Your continued assumption here is that every computer needs to be suitable for gaming and that assumption is nonsense.
> original discussion was about comparing entry-level laptops and high-end laptops to the Macbook Air, and excluding Ryzen because they aren't in high-end laptops.
Your original comment which I replied to was talking about how Ryzen wins on value. Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise.
> Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise.
But this is only the case if you compare $1200 versions of the Macbook Air to $400-500 laptops...
My previous comment already discussed the existence of $1000-1200 laptops with Ryzen that don't have "lower end components" or "fan noise" (outside of gaming, which we can't compare on because we're excluding that as a possible compromise.)
Sure we're getting a bit into terminology. Long battery life is a feature, just like a full selection of games - it is a compromise to have less of either. It's not a critical compromise depending on what you buy the machine for.
Critical compromises (again mostly in the eye of the buyer) could arguable be bad quality or unusable screens, like those with poor color representation that prevent professional work.
You are off in the sticks. By your definition, nothing is "Well rounded". Every product is designed for a purpose. Value is about how well a product suits its that purpose. When I buy a hammer, I don't complain because it doesn't work as a screwdriver.
Your continued assumption here is that every computer needs to be suitable for gaming and that assumption is nonsense.
> original discussion was about comparing entry-level laptops and high-end laptops to the Macbook Air, and excluding Ryzen because they aren't in high-end laptops.
Your original comment which I replied to was talking about how Ryzen wins on value. Which is only the case if you are willing to accept lower end components, less battery life, and fan noise.