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No you can’t that’s the “range” if it’s sunny Southern California on flat terrain. And even that might only be 160 miles.

people regularly drive to cities which is like 300-400 miles round trip. They need to pull 1 ton in a truck. There’s snow on the road and no charging station, do you want to freeze?

I’m not saying we won’t get there, just saying right now hybrids (which I actually own) are the only real option for people outside of a metropolitan area (or if they just want to drive local, which is fine). Pacifica hybrids are great, they have 30 mile full battery power. Then switch to gas. I drive locally 90% is the time, but can still drive to the closest major city 160 miles away



> for people outside of a metropolitan area

As a Bay Area resident, let me tell you: I have driven all over California and there are Tesla’s meeting me at each spot. You’re in the past with this take.


Try driving in Alabama, Minnesota, etc.

Like I said, we will get there. It’s really not there yet. I too lived in the Bay and regularly went down to San Diego. Much easier to do if you’re willing to take a couple 20 min breaks on the way (pretty normal). There are charging stations though. It’s always warm, roads are flat, etc

All I was saying is Tesla is good for what it is. It’s not well suited (today) for country or even some suburbs. For those instances hybrids are a better fit


I don’t think you realize how big California is. You could fit 3 Alabama’s in California.

When I was in Alabama, I drove across Alabama to Florida and back in an evening. A Tesla could handle that no problem. 300 miles is a long range...


> people regularly drive to cities which is like 300-400 miles round trip

A second ago you only needed 100-200 miles a day?

> Many of us like the idea of EV, but also drive 100-200 miles a day.


I used to drive ~180 miles round trip a day for work. A Tesla wouldn’t have been able to pull that off. Particularly in cold weather in the hills. But even assuming there was a charging station at work (enabling the round trip) - I also regularly drove to other cities(weekends and such) that would be 300-400 miles away. There are no charging stations anywhere in between.

This was / is common in my area. My point is that a Tesla works well in many cases, particularly in densely populated regions. They work less well if you have to drive distances, carry a heavy load, and especially not if it’s more rugged. All the more true if you have kids, particularly young ones where a 20 min charging break is rough. Or running out of charge could be a problem.

Hybrids are really much better suited to these scenarios. I think EVs will get there, they’re always closing gaps, just right now less densely populated areas make less sense.


Careful, they haven't even started talking about the weekly 1000 mile road trips.

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Towing a boat uphill the whole way.


I don't personally need a daily drive that long, but my last three Saturdays have been 250-350 miles.




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