I don't like apple that much. They have some good ideas, but the general attitude of the company makes me suspicious. The iPhone is pretty good, but i don't like the way apple sells it. I wont be able to put my hands on one of those, because at least for now apple is not selling iPhones in Bulgaria. I like the macs too. I messed around for an hour or two with a friend of mines macbook. I like MacOS X but its not that better than Ubuntu(i prefer kubuntu though) Buuuut its too expensive. Its pricey to begin with, and when a few companies redistribute it from the US to Spain, and then to central Europe and then to Bulgaria it gets really expensive for me. MacOS x is not that good to make me buy a really expensive laptop. A Dell with ubuntu is pretty decent and i might get one in the fall(or maybe an eeepc) Anyway the iPhone is going to have some tough competition in many of the countries its going to ship. Especially with that activation thing. People in Romania are not going to be that patient, and if it had shipped in Bulgaria patience was going to be even a bigger problem. And the price for us is high, what's left for Nigeria. I admire the hackers at apple. There geniuses, but the marketing guys annoy me, maybe its just my Balkan scepticism and distrust. If you try to make a Bulgarian pay too much for something and make him wait until you make sure he does what you want him to do you are going to get your self a middle finger before you see $199 so its smart that they don't sell them here :D As for Google, I haven't read enough blogs about it's phone yet.