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But they're stuck with two distinct platforms: iOS (touch) and macOS (non-touch) while the hardware the world wants is not so binary. Basically, that we can't touch the screens of the high cost workstations and laptops where we do our creative work, kind of brings down the whole ecosystem.


I consider this to be one of their better decisions. With workstation and laptops, you already have higher-precision input devices available that also are less prone to causing fatigue.

For some specialty application I can see the usefulness of digitizer pen input like some Thinkpad X series models (e.g. X220T). But fat-finger touch? What for?


For big movements (getting a window out of the way, viewing media, etc.), anything collaborative, and for anytime the machine is being used in an awkward position (so when not seated comfortably focused on inputting).


Who is advocating for this besides you? Current Apple displays are some of the worst computer displays ever when it comes to fingerprints and grime - they would have to get rid of glass. I have been using an X60 for about five years and have literally used the stylus twice, just to see that it works. My wife is a commercial artist and uses Wacom tablets. If she had wanted a drawable display she would have found some way to trick me into paying for a Cintiq by now. The collaborative thing is a non-market - the last time I used a digital whiteboard was in 2006.

I can see a giant tablet with a desktop stand and keyboard becoming the new PC as a more plausible scenario than the iMac/OS X getting a touch UI.


My apologies. I wasn't aware of you and your wife and that you guys had this all figured out.


My opinion doesn't represent everyone's of course, but I don't like touching my desktop/laptop screen and getting smudges everywhere. I'm quite happy with a keyboard and a (good) trackpad.

Apple said the touchbar is their first foray into a new system of inputs, perhaps a larger touchbar and some sort of haptic feedback is a new interface their going down, I think that could actually be pretty cool and innovative.

As for putting a touch screen on everything and desktops, eh... I mean, that Surface Studio looks amazing and likely appeals to creative professionals, but probably doesn't effect many people besides that. Kudos to them for the innovation, but I don't think it represents a better ecosystem.


I pointed this out on HN before with the same opinion and someone pointed out that they might just throw away MacOS. iOS is a smaller codebase, has superior multitasking (ever needed Activity Monitor on iOS?) and generally more future proof than MacOS is. An iOS laptop or desktop (like the Surface) wouldn't be out of the question.


Desktop and phone are very distinct interfaces. Last time they tried, such as adding the Launchpad, it didn't add anything.

I hope they don't come up with any other funny ideas.


Seen the desktop surfaces? Or used an SP4? An iOS equivalent would be excellent.


So... Windows 8 UI was a good idea?




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