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Technically Jim Crow was mostly state laws.

The point is there's this false narrative about a dichotomy of bad and good America where people like to claim they're from the good part...

The history doesn't really bare that out and the peculator American prejudice seems to simply retarget more often than recede.

The largest mass lynching, for instance, was against Italians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1891_New_Orleans_lynchings

Anti Irish riots? Sure what about Philadelphia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_nativist_riots

This history is everywhere in the USA.

Or look at the Bronx in the 1970s or Tulsa in 1921. We didn't need bombs to drop on our cities from an adversary - we did it to ourselves

So when people say "is this American society breaking down?"

I say "no. This is simply American society"


US government does not have a good record. I feel like anyone that thinks it’s particularly bad now needs to read some history books. Obviously I wish it were better but this is the same group that brought you a dozen wars in the 20th century, Japanese internment, forced segregation, price controls, nuclear weapons used on civilians, and so on.

My guess is that it has more to do with reading news sources particularly aligned with one political viewpoint than the actual facts of what the government is doing.


This kind of opinion seems logical only if you don't look at history. I'm struggling to think of a government which is effective today but didn't have some horrible actions in the near past. At best I think you'll get functionally "minor" states like Switzerland or Denmark that weren't really in the powerful position the US was/is in.

And so it's much better to compare the US government's record with the record of other states, and in that comparison I think the US comes out reasonably well. Not the best, but certainly not the worst.


"Past performance is not indicative of future results"

The best way to figure out what someone's going to do in the future is looking at what they are doing now.


even then the swiss don't exactly have the cleanest record. There's a reason they're neutral and it isn't because they're morally superior

I haven’t had any issues. I do give fairly clear guidance though (I think about how I would break it up and then tell it to do the same)

I too love to read books that reinforce my existing beliefs. Although I’m starting to think it’s less educational than the opposite :)

How does this show that corporations have too much power? We are literally discussing that this act could easily be stopped by legislation. Doesn’t that imply they have less power than the electorate?

A corporation having to ability to bribe people who need money to pay their rent and healthcare in order to save their own image is indeed "too much power".

> We are literally discussing that this act could easily be stopped by legislation. Doesn’t that imply they have less power than the electorate?

Not when they have full time people dedicated to lobbying the legislation. That's the issue on why things move so slow or halt when it comes to really voting on such policy.


Contracts are entered by private individuals, not by the state. So your pithy claim to instantly demolish the idea is not actually effective.

I don't understand your argument. Contracts can generally be entered into by private individuals as well as by legal entities like the state.

If you're making an argument that the right to contract should be unlimited between individuals (and perhaps unlimited between legal entities), but should be limited when made between individuals and artificial legal entities, that would be an interesting framing to explore. But afaik it's not really a popular one.

(although I don't know that such a framework would actually invalidate what I said, especially for autocratic totalitarian states - each citizen of North Korea could just as easily be said to have a contract with Kim Jong Un himself)


I think that’s a good proposal.

Everyone who has a job that requires them to speak for their employer signs away their “free speech” right to an extent. Your proposal would not lead to a tenable system.

The company offers you money in exchange for signing certain agreements. You are free to decline. There is no obligation on either side.

If non disparagement clauses were illegal then perhaps the severance amounts would be smaller since there’s now much less value to the company.


>If non disparagement clauses were illegal then perhaps the severance amounts would be smaller since there’s now much less value to the company.

...and the salaries would be higher, and some people would be make different choices regarding whether they want to accept an offer or not.

They aren't illegal, but, like non-compete clauses, they should be.


We have a system of laws that decide which private contracts are enforceable and which are not. So we can try to change the law but as it stands we have decided that this one is enforceable.

FWIW I agree about not enforcing non disparagement clauses but legally that not the world we live in.


> We have a system of laws that decide which private contracts are enforceable and which are not.

And we are arguing that private contracts like this should not be enforceable.

> we have decided

I have not been consulted on this matter.


Unless you're on the supreme court that will continue to be the case

Sounds like you agree with me that “we” haven’t decided.

Yes unfortunately we don't get a say

Did you not vote?

"we" is a strong word here. More like some people 50-80 years ago decided to at worst rule against the worker's best interest, and at best chose to ignore it and pretend things would work out with a "gentlemans' agreement".

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