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> Health conscious folks would definitely choose these over hamburgers.

I seriously doubt that health-conscious people would pick hyper-processed plants that are meant to resemble meat over plain meat+bread+vegetables that make up a non-fast-food hamburger.


> Let's celebrate "small internet theory", an internet where exploitation is effectively impossible because every company that tries it is overrun with AI bots.

But isn't it even harder for small forums to resist the robot onslaught without the trillion dollar valuations to fund it?

Although, part of the reason Facebook/Linkedin/Twitch/etc have bots is because those companies secretly want them, in order to inflate their usage numbers.


> Although, part of the reason Facebook/Linkedin/Twitch/etc have bots is because those companies secretly want them, in order to inflate their usage numbers.

Yes, they are disincentivized to get rid of bots.


The people that want to get rid of the bots get crushed because said botting technology is hyper advanced and cheap to use because of the massive scale of social media. This ends up with huge numbers of them getting put behind services like cloudflare further consolidating the internet.

> Funny enough I now involuntarily take RTFA

Residential Treatment Facility for Adults? Red Tail Flight Academy?


Reading the fine article

> what if the code you write or autonomous machine you contribute to used for killing?

This line of thinking, that creating machines that kill is unethical, will destroy the West. If the US wasn't so good at producing killing machines in WW2, you wouldn't be here to complain about DARPA ethics.

Instead of having engineers develop the most advanced machines for killing (i.e. protecting the West) such people go into producing the most addictive content delivery systems, destroying the brains of minors.


Why are those the only two options?

> This line of thinking, that creating machines that kill is unethical, will destroy the West.

He specifically said autonomous killing machines. You understand the difference right?


Reread the original quote:

"what if the code you write OR autonomous machine you contribute to used for killing"


We’re the bad guys. We were only the “good guys” for like 4 years in the 1940s and we still did internment camps. Everyone is costing off that 80 year old aura to justify a death machine.

What is this “West” that you care so much about?

>This line of thinking, that creating machines that kill is unethical, will destroy the West

Hell yeah


> It is incredible how far the overton window has moved on this issue.

> When I graduated in 2007, it was common for tech companies to refuse to let their systems be used for war,

In 2007 the US was the sole world hegemon. It could afford to let the smartest people work on ad delivery systems.

In 2026, in certain fields, China has a stronger economy and military. Russia is taking over Europe. India and Brazil are going their own way. China is economically colonizing Africa.

The US can't afford to let it's enemies develop strong AI weapons first because of the naive thinking that Russia/China/others will also have naive thinkers that will demand the same.

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People were just as naive with respect to Ukraine. They were saying that mines and depleted uranium shells are evil. But when Russia attacked, many changed their minds because they realized you can't kill Russians with grandstanding on noble principle. You kill them with mines and depleted uranium shells.

Hopefully people here will change their minds before a hot war. As the saying goes, America always picks the right solution after trying all the wrong ones.


> Train an LLM on all human knowledge up to 1905 and see if it comes up with General Relativity. It won’t.

AGI just means human level intelligence. I couldn't come up with General Relativity. That doesn't mean I don't have general intelligence.

I don't understand why people are moving the goalposts.


A 4 year old is currently more capable than LLMs (I'm not making this up, ask Yann LeCun). You're going to need it to reach at least "adult" level to be general intelligence.


I'd argue they are clarifying the goalposts with aplomb.


> AGI just means human level intelligence.

It seems more like people haven't decided on what the goal post is. If AGI is just another human, that's pretty underwhelming. That's why people are imagining something that surpasses humans by heaps and bounds in terms of reasoning, leading to wondrous new discoveries.


"Just another human" would be outright astonishing if it landed.


Yeah as a dad I can tell you it gets old quickly.


"Just another human, but one you can switch off at the wall" is both better and terrifyingly worse.


1. Iranians protested.

2. Islamists massacred them.

3. Trump said "help is on its way" ( https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/13/trump-promises... )

4. Now is the help.

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Trump also said that when he says things he means them, unlike Obama's red lines in Syria (his words). When he said that, it was pretty clear he couldn't back off of attacking Iran.

I assume it took so long because he's going for regime change, not just a few bombings. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, it took the US 5 months to launch a counter-invasion (mostly because of coalition building).


> Trump also said that when he says things he means them

He says all sorts of things. Remember when Iran's nuclear facilities were "obliterated" and any "suggestions otherwise are fake news"? https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/irans-nuclear-fa...


> Russia-Ukraine has had about 1 million deaths

I wish... But estimates say between 230,000 and 468,500 dead orcs.


Love the Burzum reference, but it's low quality on a discussion forum. Downvoted.


What's there to discuss about this absolute shit show?


I tried to access that URL but it's banned in my country (Romania) for being an "exploitative gambling website". It's the first time I've felt that my country has a sensible internet policy.


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