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There is no justification to validate that a client is in a secure unmodified state? Just to be clear you have to be dimwitted to think the danger of your computer being compromised is anywhere near that of your phone. Its a data gold mine.


And a simple match can literally kill everyone in the house.


Attacking a nation state that attacked you first isn't committing genocide. Its also funny that you think the EU(the world champs at enslaving and colonizing the world) has some how evolved past the same shit they literally did in the 90's.


Genocide is defined by intention to remove population or preventing their breeding. It has nothing to with who attacked who first or whether something ia nation state or not.

EU as in European Union came to be long after colonization and have member states that were colonies of someone else.


Did France give up its colonies already? Minister of the Interior and Overseas Territories is a title in France. What about the Dutch? Those don't count, I'm guessing, because the colonies have been subdued and don't show up in the news feed.


So basically, EU did not actively enslaved or colonized anything. But, past colonies of some EU member states mean that there can not be genocide anywhere outside of Europe.


I'm not saying it is or isn't genocide, but if Hamas attacked Israel first then you're ignoring something like 75 years of the conflict.


Are we going to go all the way back to the partition of the Ottoman Empire? I think i might agree with you we should give all the land back to Turkey aka NATO.


The current conflict has been going on for about 75 years. To ignore that and just focus on what happened last month is disingenuous at best.

Where did you get the idea that I want to give land to Turkey?


the Ottoman empire is also known as the Turkish empire. it was Turkeys land that was "stolen". Partitioning post empires can get messy.


Yes, I'm aware of that. I never once said or implied anything about giving any land to anyone.

I'm actually of the opinion that both groups need to figure out how to live together peacefully instead of fighting each other. It seems quite unlikely that will ever happen. There's too much hate on both sides.


downvoted for speaking the truth


killing thousands of children deliberately is genocide


It is not. That is not what genocide means.


"It's not genocide, it's just mass-scale war crimes" is a soulless pedantic argument that that convinces no one, and ignores numerous statements of intent from Israeli ministers, politicians, and military leaders.


What am I trying to convince you of?


Since you are not educated in the conflict, respectfully stfu.


could you explain the Jaffa riots or the 1929 riots to me? Since I'm sooo uneducated. Or shit the Black Hand org... you know the one that called for jihad against immigrants.


its important to remember propaganda doesn't mean false. Aslong as its trying to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda its propaganda.


> its important to remember propaganda doesn't mean false

It doesn't mean true either.


Not you shouldn't be able hoard the supply of a thing and double its price. Don't play stupid like the intent of the purchase doesn't have consequences on your rights to sell an asset.


I would like to to state a very specific thing: I’m both a socialist and fine with price gouging for tesla trucks, and I don’t feel that’s a hypocritical thought.

Not all “things” are equal though. When we’re talking about materials required for living being hoarded, I’ll be right there with you. When luxury automobiles and tickets to Taylor Swift are the topic, I’m fine with the market deciding.


it also doesn't apply to software aka all that tesla firmware


umm they can 100% disable the software on the car.


Is it legal for them to do that though?


In the same sense that Apple can.


yea umm first sale doctrine doesn't apply to software.

Edit: also resellers are a plague. That do nothing but buy up supply and double the price.


First sale doctrine definitely used to apply to software. Back when software came in shrink-wrapped boxes.

And alas and woe that the tech industry and courts have conspired to build such a sad world where essentially criminal violation of business model rules. That we haven't rights, when software has any services or systems it connects to.

I deeply appreciated a shout-out from Web scraping for me but not for thee to Mark Lemley in early aughts I guess, pointing out that the biggest trick the tech world ever played was switching from being governed via property rights (where established consumer rights like transferability apply), to contract rights, where the person making or selling something can ensnare you however they please & you get no say & no rights. Software has been a mass tool for infernalizarion of this world & this forever worsening of conditions needs to be pushed back against, needs some force to oppose it's ever widening sway. https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2023/08/web-scraping-f...


It does apply to software: If I buy a game CD I can resell it without any copyright infringement.


The CD is a physical good, though.

While the First Sale Doctrine applies in principle to software, in practice nowadays it's very difficult to exercise that right. A lot of it is subscription-based, and reselling your subscription is pointless. Other stuff is DRM-encumbered, and/or tied to an online account in some form, so you can't really resell it successfully, at least not without breaking the DRM, which is in violation of a different law. And the manufacturer would claim that you've licensed the software, not actually bought it, anyway.

Gross.


This is a truck.


Ce n'est pas un camion

Apologies to Rene Magritte.


Ceci*


That truck doesn't have une pipe



Resellers do something of value. They purchase a thing and hold it for some time protecting it from being snatched of the market and make it available to rich purchaser after that time who might otherwise have trouble of obtaining the item at that time.

They provide service for the rich at the expense of the poor. Which is probably not very nice but half of the capitalism works on that premise.


Increasing price when the initial seller is incentivised to sell below market rate is an important and valuable service.


Ah yes. All those heroes scalping Xboxes, PS5s, Switches, GPUs, and event tickets for the last few years deserve a statue or holiday to honour their tireless commitment to improving society.

Without their botting, buying out inventories, and order limit evasion, someone who’s not wealthy might be able to enjoy the latest in entertainment or buy gifts for their children. Can you imagine?


Not sure a statue is necessary but they certainly earned their money.


They also earned the disdain they receive for being scum.


Doesn't earned implied 'honest work done' otherwise its theft right ?


To whom? The only one who benefits is the scalper.

The original seller is perfectly capable of doing price discovery on their own; the fact that they've decided to sell below market price is their prerogative.


It is their prerogative and I certainly wouldn't support any law saying that tickets or consoles must be sold for X price.

It is also the prerogative of others to want to pay more to secure their chance of getting that item rather than only have a chance to get it, and the prerogative of others to earn money providing that service.

The original seller is only one stakeholder in the process and I don't have a reason to hold their wants above anyone else's.


> The only one who benefits is the scalper.

Presumably the final buyer also benefits.

Without scalpers, who gets to buy is basically random chance.


To the rich buyers that otherwise wouldn't be able to buy the product because it would be bought out by less affluent but faster buyers.


I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but if so I am baffled that you think so and would love to hear an explanation.


People work to make money so they can buy goods and services, which are made by other people who are working so that they can buy goods and services. That's the foundation of I think every economy on the planet with the exception of maybe North Korea, not really sure what's going on over there. Different jobs paying different incomes then acts as a bounty to draw people to do things they otherwise wouldn't and that there aren't many people willing or able to do. Higher pay lures people to spend longer in school, to go work somewhere terrible to live, to sit in a cube all day, which then benefits us all in the form of more consoles and tickets to buy.

Removing pricing as a way to determine who gets scarce goods and replacing it with random chance undermines this. Why spend the extra years in school to be a nurse instead of a wards man? Why spend the extra years to be a doctor instead of a nurse? Why spend the extra years to specialise instead of being a general practitioner?

And that's just replacing it with random chance. Replacing it with a system where what you get depends on your ability to be available the minute something is released, or to line up for hours, or to drive from store to store, is far worse. It now doesn't mean what you get is detached from how much you participate in the workforce, it means working a lot, or at something hard or important actually decreases your change of getting a playstation or Taylor Swift tickets.

Then separately there's also people liking things to different degrees and the determination of who gets which. If we both earn about the same about, you're a massive Taylor Swift fan, I think she's pretty good but nowhere near as good as Crash Bandicoot, and you don't mind playing a game every now and then; then in a world where we're both in the market for some entertainment and there's one Taylor Swift ticket and one PS5 available, you should get the ticket and I should get the PS5. If those are distributed by price, that's very likely to happen. We're both likely to be willing to outbid each other for our preferred item and be happy with the result. If it's determined by "log in at release and hope for the best" then there's only a 1/4 chance that's the outcome. Its more likely to be one of; I get both, you get both, or we each get our less preferred item.

So on one level that's why I'm in favour of people taking things distributed by chance and distribute them by price instead. However I don't think anything I just wrote would teach any reader who has been through high school anything. I don't think it will cause any revelation. I think most people would agree with me for most other goods and services. Hell there are many (majority?) of straight up socialists who want to use income and price to allocate who gets what, they just don't want to leave the income and price determination up to the market or let you use that income to purchase means of production.

Which means the question is "why do I feel the same way about tickets and consoles that I do about basically everything else that is bought and sold; when many internet commenters don't?" and I think the best answer is that I did not grow up middle class and I do not have middle class sensibilities. People who can spend $300 or $1300 on a concert ticket are both decently well off as far as I'm concerned whereas I think many of you can put yourselves in the shoes of the former and see the latter as rich. I have no strong conviction that recently released consoles and brand name artists should be attainable. I don't think anyone from my family or my childhood has been to a concert by a big enough name that tickets were scalped. I don't think not being able to buy your kid a PS5 is some sort of moral failing of society.

All of this is not to say I don't want the middle class to have the things they want. Again I think allocation by pricing leads to more people in general getting more things they want in general. But it means I lack the emotional impulse to think "market efficiency be damned, we need to do something about this!" on the topic of consoles and tickets like I would otherwise have for homelessness, people working multiple jobs to stay afloat, etc.


Why do these EU laws never seem to target EU companies? On that note its past time for the US DOJ to break up EssilorLuxottica.


Because there are nearly no giant EU tech companies trying to monopolize the world.


the EU has plenty of companies trying to monopolize the world. For example EssilorLuxottica.


What does that have to do with the Digital Markets Act?


I'm curious, what big EU tech companies so big they would be subjected to regulation? AFAIK it's mostly telcos, consulting and semiconductors makers. Telcos are already heavily regulated (at least here in Italy), the rest doesn't really quality for consumer protection laws being B2B.


I'm not really sure how EssilorLuxottica is relevant to questions of digital markets, but I do agree that the US should break them up (at least in the US market).


Are you American?


Sure, but Airbnb isn't trying to replace a core societal institution and subvert hundreds of years of financial law. While also if you're American violating the constitution...


Look, I hate crypto too, but I think housing still qualifies as a "core societal institution".


Airbnb is more hotels. But I can see how it muddies those waters.


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