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People are allowed to attempt to live a life of dignity even while the entity and its defenders on HN are trying to wipe their people out.

I agree. Web service hosted on Lambda that, for long running async tasks, uses FIFO SQS (optionally by way of FIFO SNS) connected to the task runner Lambda. Easy. It's not hard to deploy like OP claims. Build a Docker image, toss it in ECR, and use AWS CDK to do infra. Done.

And god help you if you want to use one of their many competing data engineering tools, all of which will be duct taped onto Glue and require not just IAM but also another layer of RBAC on top of IAM. Like you said with IAM, I think it just slowly evolved into the mess it is today, but it's rough. Trying to just run a simple Spark query using an S3 Table Bucket was enough to remind me why Snowflake and Databricks are printing money by making it a more user friendly experience.

These kind of things (internal tools created out of band of normal engineering practices by non-engineers) were amazing back when I did pentesting because the security was always the last consideration. That got harder when SaaS became preferable to rolling your own stuff for everything. Guess things are gonna get fun again for red teams lol

I agree with you.

The danger is not however that only that people write their own tools for calculations and capacity planning etc.

The danger is people make useful stuff that is very fine as long it is just an internal tool, but then someone add credentials to other systems so it can access and maybe even update stuff and it gets exposed to third parties etc and all of a sudden we have a major data breach going on.


>or N/Ax if you prefer

It's not a matter of preference


"Ah you textile workers are so whiny. If you're mad at your jobs being obsoleted by massive machine factories, why not just buy a few dozen such factories? Strike out on your own."

Yeah man I don't know if mommy and daddy are paying your rent and healthcare (as I often see from people with this attitude). Or maybe you're one of the 45 year old tech workers whose mid life crisis involves a music project no one will listen to and going to work on some startups with your FIRE nest egg until you come crawling back to a big tech company. But for now I, like most millennial Americans, am reliant on wage labor to afford a dignified life in a tolerable town.


True. I wasn’t born American so there is that. I have some of the lesser promoted freedoms like getting to think critically about if this is what I really want to be doing in life.

> maybe you're one of the 45 year old

> But for I, like most millennial Americans

Someone who turns 45 in 2026 is a millennial though.


> Ah you textile workers are so whiny...

hell yeah baby, I'm a proud Luddite.


It's just a good component of a defense in depth approach. Where it's bad is when it's the only defense. Putting a sensitive server behind port knocking will cut down on 99.99999% of random internet IPs spraying attacks at it, so it's worth doing. Just don't rely on it for the only auth check.

I'm in the second camp.

Part of it's that the whole point of going into this industry is that I love coding and have been doing it since I was 8. Part of it is that I'm a control freak and it makes me uncomfortable to have to trust AI generated code. Sure, I already trust interpreters and compilers, but those are much more deterministic, and they don't generally do anything I have to be wary of. Part of it is that anytime I've used Claude to write stuff (using Opus 4.7 via an API key), I've had to handhold it when doing simple things (telling it repeatedly that a given column doesn't exist in Snowflake's task history table and eventually just giving up and taking it out by hand) and had to remove tons of completely pointless Python code it generates. The big difference is that the people in the first camp don't seem to care enough to check. Someone at my company used Claude to write 20k lines of code this past Friday. No way he read and scrutinized all of that in one day.

The other big thing I've noticed is that a lot of the people using it extensively seem to just be spitting out API endpoint after endpoint. Just doing endless CRUD with some light business logic. Yeah, it's not too hard to automate that with AI without any major issues. Hell, back when Ruby on Rails was hot, it was so fast to write those kinds of things with it that I could spin up things as fast as AI is doing now. Full websites or APIs in an hour or two because its syntactic sugar and scaffolding did what AI does with the FastAPI codebases I see these days. You could go from an ER diagram to a working app in minutes sometimes. I don't care that much if that kind of work is automated.


I was in the second camp until last summer, having been hand-writing code since 1979.

Yeah I mean that's the point at which cognitive decline and retirement kind of change the calculus.

What killed Google+ is the same thing that prevented Bluesky from ever being good. They had a brief window where everyone wanted to use it, and they kept it locked behind a hard to get invite system for months and months.


It was worse than that: they forced _everyone_ into it, whether or not you had any interest in using it.

They did this before having notification control or usable filtering[1] so what this meant was for most of year, you'd login to Gmail and see the upper right notification badge be !!!LOOK AT ME!!! red only to click on it and see it was telling you that some dude who no-showed on a Craigslist sale 10 years ago in a different city had been forced to “join” Google+. Even worse, it took like 6 months for their iOS developers to give you any control over push notifications so you got all of that as push notifications until you deleted the app.

They also annoyed key communities like Google Reader users: that wasn't their largest popular social network but it was one which people actually liked and it disproportionately skewed towards people like journalists, bloggers, etc. who recommended technology to other people. The conversion to Google+ was really clumsy and they did things like replacing the popular Reader commenting system with a Google+ “integration” which didn't work at all on mobile devices[2], which meant that a ton of influential people had a really negative experience and told everyone they knew about it.

1. The “circles” idea reportedly worked well when it was Google employees using it internally but it relied on the poster picking an audience for a post, which failed in the real world when the spammiest people think everyone is interested in their every word.

2. The dialog was sized for a desktop display so the post button was inaccessible off the screen.


> the same thing that prevented Bluesky from ever being good.

That's not it at all. Bluesky is simply just too political.

X is too political. Bluesky is too political. When you focus on content and sharing and having a good time, then the network takes off.

I'm not saying politics isn't important. I'm saying it can't become the miasma that pervades the entire service and makes the entire point of the social network complaining about politics, polarized attacks, etc.


Bluesky is political because their invite-only on-boarding process for months meant that only really tight knit subgroups and subcultures found their way in. By the time your average person who just wanted to stop seeing ads about Great Replacement Theory or whatever found their way into Bluesky, it was chock full of furry art, "fandom" posting from teenagers on the spectrum, and political rambling from people who haven't touched grass since puberty.


How does having a really tightly controlled and/or lengthy invite period translate into the user base being of one particular political viewpoint? I'm not seeing the causal link. Even if I take at face value your claim that "only really tight knit subgroups and subcultures found their way in," I still don't see how these subgroups or subcultures would necessarily have the same political views.


Well it self selected for left wing ones.

My point is normal people who aren't extremely online and part of 10 Discord servers with an internet friend network who can hook them up with an invite didn't get into Bluesky. Instead the people who, well, did, got the invites. Obviously the extremely online right didn't because they had other places to go and weren't welcomed by the bsky admins.


Twitter going so far right helped select Bluesky and Mastodon moving further left.


“Well it self selected for left wing ones” didn’t answer my question in the least, so I’ll just assume your claim is false.


Early BlueSky was seeded by furries, the trans community, socialist Democrats, and left-wing folks fleeing an overly Republican/MAGA Twitter.

The system was invite-based, meaning these people invited their friends. And those people invited their friends of friends.

The community was seeded by a very political base at its inception. The general feed the average user saw when opening the app was activist-political, furry art, dildos, and outrage. This continued for a year, I think?

This is not very welcoming to a general audience, and it severely knee-capped Bluesky's growth trajectory.

Here's the front page of Bluesky for a new user today:

https://imgur.com/a/QzBdust


Yes, I understand now that this is what the poster I was replying to was saying. But it's different from that poster's original argument, which I took to be that there was something inherent to the invite process that resulted in a politically one-sided user base.

But really, it's that Twitter shifted hard-right to literal Nazism, and so people left. Which is completely understandable.


>there was something inherent to the invite process that resulted in a politically one-sided user base

At no point did I make this claim. Bluesky's user base self selected for left wing viewpoints because Twitter had taken a hard right turn and Bluesky, mostly by way of moderation, was unwelcoming to the right wing. So left leaning people had a reason to leave Twitter and a friendly platform. Right wing people had no reason to leave Twitter and a hostile platform with Bluesky.


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“Too political” usually means “not my politics” IME.


Maybe? But that doesn't really have much to do with my point.


I was agreeing with you


>Twitter is a haven for people who are fans of generating non-consensual porn of others, white supremacy/white nationalism, murder of innocent civilians, and other reprehensible things.

It's really not. It's where everyone is right now. The Trots and Maoists. The demsoc local politicians. The vegan militant organizers. Etc. You can also include whatever shitty group you want to cherry pick to make your disingenuous ass argument. And when you do, post it to Bluesky where people can get a dopamine rush with you as they shake their heads and smile and post how horrible it is.


Based on this reply and others, it seems Twitter is frying your brain and you should probably stop using it.

Care to actually refute my point instead of saying “nuh uh” and lobbing some childish insults my way?


I never claimed to actively use Twitter anywhere in here.


That still doesn't actually address my argument. And I assumed you did, since you said "It's where everyone is right now" (which is objectively false). So, as an aside, do you actively use Twitter? Or are you going to dodge that too?


Thats not the only thing that killed google+ though. I think their aggressive push was their demise, forced all their users to use google+, mangled with youtube and gmail accounts and all that pissed off a lot of users.


>the medium is the message

If you asked 100 Americans what this aphorism means, I strongly doubt a single one could capture McLuhan's original meaning.


You're right. ive struggled to understand what exactly this means, in large part perhaps it's so often misused?

I think it means something like we're trapped in the constraints of the medium. Tweets say more about the environment of twitter than whatever message happened to be sent.

but i think im off on that, ill look this person up and find out!


Some examples.

Firstly, Twitter has an upper bound on the complexity of thoughts it can carry due to its character limit (historically 180, now somewhat longer but still too short).

Secondly, a biased or partial platform constrains and filters the messages that are allowed to be carried on it. This was Chomsky's basic observation in Manufacturing Consent where he discussed his propaganda model and the four "filters" in front of the mass media.

Finally, social media has turned "show business [into] an ordinary daily way of survival. It's called role-playing." [0] The content and messages disseminated by online personas and influencers are not authentic; they do not even originate from a real person, but a "hyperreal" identity (to take language from Baudrillard) [0]:

    You are just an image on the air. When you don't have a physical body, you're a
    _discarnate being_ [...] and this has been one of the big effects of the electric age. It
    has deprived people of their public identity.
Emphasis mine. Influencers have been sepia-tinted by the profit orientation of the medium and their messages do not correspond to a position authentically held. You must now look and act a certain way to appease the algorithm, and by extension the audience.

If nothing else, one should at least recognize that people primarily identify through audiovisual media now, when historically due to lack of bandwidth, lack of computing and technology, etc. it was far more common for one to represent themselves through literate media - even as recently as IRC. You can come to your own conclusions on the relative merits and differences between textual vs. audiovisual media, I will not waffle on about this at length here.

The medium itself is reshaping the ways people represent, think about, and negotiate their own self-concept and identity. This is beyond whatever banal tweets (messages) about what McSandwich™ your favourite influencer ate for lunch, and it's this phenomena that is important and worth examining - not the sandwich.

[0] Marshall McLuhan in Conversation with Mike McManus, 1977. https://www.tvo.org/transcript/155847


It's confusing because "message" is not using its lay meaning, and decades of "medium" and "media" meaning drift meant that it isn't either.

For "the medium is the message", "medium" refers to any tool that acts as an extension of yourself. TV is an extension of your community, even things like light bulbs (extends your vision) are included in his meaning.

McLuhan argued that all forms of media like that carry a message that's more than just their content. "The message" in that argument refers to the message the medium itself brings rather than its content. For example, the airplane is "used for" speeding up travel over long distance, but the the message of its medium itself is to "dissolve the railway form of city, politics, and association, quite independently of what the airplane is used for."

You can see it happening via online media that extend ourselves across the internet. Think of how, once easy video creation via Youtube became uniform, web comics stopped becoming a popular medium for comedy online. It's not like the web comics faded because they got worse; it's that they faded into a niche format because people didn't want to communicate via static images anymore. Or how, once short form videos on TikTok got big, you saw other platforms shift to copy the paradigm. McLuhan's point is that it's not just the content of those short form videos that matters; it's the message of the format itself. Peoples' attention spans grow shorter because of the format, and before too long, we saw the tastes and expectations of the masses change. Reddit's monosite-with-subcommunities format and dopamine triggering voting feedback mechanism were its message more than any actual content posted there, and it's why traditional forums are niche and dwindling.

If you want to get a pretty good understanding of it, just read the first chapter from his book Understanding Media. It's short and relatively straight forward.


More worrisome is that the speech which that came from went on to prophetically observe that for each extension of human capability afforded by technology, there was a matching amputation in human skill/facility --- heretofore, computers have largely fit in with Steve Jobs' vision of them as "bicycles of the mind", making human effort more efficient --- the cognitive engine of LLMs looks to be dumbing down human reasoning to a least common denominator/mean:

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/mit-study-finds-artifi...


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