You think? I will get banned from HN if I bring up that these models are fundamentally theft but we just don't put them in jail because they had the foresight to bribe the trump admin like everyone else who wants favor did.
Voters still need to look through the barrage of miss- and disinformation, hatred, blaming etc. in short through all the shit the zone is flooded with. Republicans can if required always turn the dial further.
A principled democratic opponent on the other hand should not succumb to all of this, they should act with integrity etc. traits that also seem to not be pushed by algorithms nowadays. All in all I think it's a lot harder, especially when paired with short attention span of viewers.
> Pointing out that such costs have been externalised for decades should be the starting point to internalise them.
I absolutely agree. 100%. The issue is single companies can't do that. They will not be competitive against companies that aren't doing it. You need an even playing field for this to work, i.e. you need legislation and uniform environmental standards across all states, whatever those standards may be. Probably even need similar pacts across countries, within reason.
Right now, the US is moving in the opposite direction to this statement.
Why care about single use coffee cups? They begin their life as oil in the ground and end their life as plastic in the ground (in landfill).
I've grown rather weary of performative complaining about trash which has a waste lifecycle which ends at "stabilized landfill".
Because that's one of our best waste lifecycle processes: what's a disaster is greenhouse gas emissions, it waste which is reliably ending up in the oceans and doesn't biodegrade.
To this day, even retired, I send bug reports to co-workers I know that are still at Apple. (I've sent a few image files that were problematic to the top engineer on the ImageIO team for example. I worked with him for over two decades before I retired.)
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