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It also usually triggers a liquidity event, so the team gets paid (or their equity gets transferred to OpenAI) in a way that provides a bit of a bonus and incentive to stick around.


Given how easy it is to keep an average human from discerning reality (see the last decade of boomers/gen xers on Facebook as an example) and the massive potential to create slight variations with LLMs, I don't think a Stephenson-style misinformation propagation campaign is that far outside the bounds of possibility.

That's a lot of compute power to waste on it, but I would guess that that's what bot networks are going to be used for in the future (or already are, right now, if they're done mining bitcoin).


Markdown is an authoring language (it's easy to write) rather than a publishing language (like XML, which is mostly replaces, which sucks to write in).


That’s a perfect way to put it! :)


This has more in common with Austin, Texas. Everyone is grumpy about all the people moving there, but the vast, vast majority are moving there from other parts of Texas rather than out of state.


That sounds incredibly unlikely to me. Or, I suppose it could make sense, but only under a couple of circumstances:

1. Each year’s crop of UT students constitutes a large fraction of Austin transplants. But that doesn’t seem possible, as I can’t imagine that’s more than 20k a year.

2. Most transplants are from Texas, but every other Texas metro is experiencing similar intra-state migration, and so every big city in Texas is hollowing out the state’s hinterlands.


Mentioned elsewhere, but Groups is a core part of their business offering. It's how lists and permissions get set up in lots of orgs using Google for enterprise email, docs, etc. View it as an extension of that and you can understand why consumer facing features seem stagnant.


That's not what marketing does. It doesn't influence the decision. Marketing makes sure your company is top of mind when the customer decides to make a decision.


Not just that. An effect of advertising I only understood later in life is that they give the company name recognition among all your peers.

E.g. BMW doesn't create car commercials just to get everyone to think about BMW when buying cars. They make car commercials to make sure everyone knows that BMW is expensive and good, so that driving a BMW is a signal that you're wealthy.

Similarly, Salesforce might want to make it clear that if you go with them, it's a "defensible" choice that you can easily explain to your boss.


To be fair though, that's influencing the decision that they make, at least averaged over many people.


If we had the answer to this question, most of the ideological debates of the past 150 would be solved.


A twofer, one question and one comment / prediction:

A. Who are some of the thinkers who predicted that many corporations would arguably become more powerful (in terms of control over resources and peoples lives) than most nation states? Are their modern analogues that you (HN reader) recommend for the next phases of history?

B. While many of the well-worn political economy debates about how and when markets work well, fairness, resilience, and so on will continue to matter, I think there will be tremendous rethinking of basic assumptions. The AI progress of ~2017-present has shown that online (at least) it is getting harder to differentiate human from machine intelligence.

So proving human intelligence is more expensive and imperfect. It seems doubtful that most humans want to jump through hoops to prove their humanity. I say this because people want to have machine agents helping them, it seems.

So this machine/human intelligence distinction may erode. Is this a Faustian bargain? I don't know, but I think it depends on the safeguards and designs we choose.

So, machine resources are even more effective in persuading humans than before. In short, as ML/AI gets more {organization, market, marketing} influence, we might see a renaissance of sorts when it comes to ...

1. a more informed public (hard to believe, maybe -- but I said informed not critical nor truth-seeking) with regards to key areas of interest. But along with this probably comes an increased risk of consuming confirmatory information, since such information will be explicitly generated for persuasive purposes.

As such, from a system perspective, humans may be relegated to message propagators rather than agents worthy of fundamental respect. By this I mean the following: most ethicists suggest we value humans as ends (not means). In other words, we want systems that serve people. Engagement ideally would consist of meaningful dialogue and deliberation (which I define as information-rich, critical, civil, thoughtful discussions where people listen and may at times be persuaded).

Unfortunately, AI advances may change a kind of manipulation "arms race" so to speak. It might become more cost-effective to manipulate humans than to gather their input and build consensus thoughtfully and organically. Sadly, I think we've been losing this battle for a long time while. But the underlying forces for manipulation seem to be getting stronger while (a) human nature doesn't seem to be evolving very quickly and (b) general socially learned defenses are inadequate. ("Advertising works even if you know that advertising works.")

And, second ...

2. more pervasive and nuanced market mechanisms and similar (price and quality optimization, matching of people to opportunities). This will likely be good for short-term goals and efficiency, but probably indifferent to long-term stability, not to even mention equity and human rights. Aspects that are not part of the optimization criteria tend to fall by the wayside.

I realize this story probably echoes some themes from general genre of Singularity prognosticators. But all of these changes will have sweeping changes well before we have to concern ourselves with AGI.


I don't think the radically different contexts of a burgeoning nation in the 18th century and a highly developed nation in the 21st "destroys" this quote.


The experience of "actually in times of war people need and use art" does it.

Quote was made by diplomat and revolutionary. It expresses his personal values and needs rather then universal needs in bad times.


Naive feels like a much better word than innocent.


Keep in mind this article is 15 years old. It could get a driver's permit in most US states.


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