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You didn't address this idea that nuclear power does not require Iran to enrich uranium. The deal seems faulty if they can still enrich uranium, regardless if they were following it or not.


Every NPT-signatory has the right to enrich.


My experience is the EDI and debugger depedent programmers have a very hard time when those things are taken away or unavailable. The reverse is not true.


How good are Boeing's software engineers? They don't seem to pay very well.


The 777 is the second-safest aircraft in the world, next to the Airbus A340. The 787 is on track to demonstrate a similar safety record (in terms of fatal incidents).

So overall, they seem to be quite good.


Those were produced pre-FAANG, Boeing probably paid comparatively better then. Do the smartest software engineers flock to Boeing in 2019?

I think the relatively low pay and status of software engineers outside of the Bay Area is a huge risk to society. We are going to start seeing it show up in interesting places.


Not sure why you're being downvoted. There has been a brain-drain from industry and academia because FAANG and the Bay Area have been providing software engineers with much better compensation, even with the cost-of-living factored in.

Some companies can't compete, and many others just refuse to compete.


God forbid that FAANG engineers ever work on aerospace software...


I work at a FAANG company, and I feel the same way. I don't mean that as a criticism of my coworkers. It's just a different ethos. Not only are no lives at stake, but all copies of the software are visible and modifiable at will. How's that system doing? Oh, it's slow because this part was tuned incorrectly? Boom, pushed a fix. People come to rely on it. They rely on it so much that anyone who emphasizes prevention too much will get dinged for moving too slowly.

It's actually a valid POV for that environment, but it has been difficult for me to adjust. I'm sure it's even harder for them to adjust the other way, to an environment where you don't even know who's running your code until they report a catastrophic failure. Prevention hardly seems like a waste of time then.


Move fast and... wait.


And increasing demand from the security-industrial complex that also does military/classified work.

Boeing can’t H1-B its way out of underpaying like other engineer employers.


> Do the smartest software engineers flock to Boeing in 2019?

Many engineers don't get rewarded for 150 IQ smarts. They get rewarded for hustle. (Whether in a startup, or at FAANG, you can have an incredibly successful, and lucrative career, without being incredibly technically capable.)

When you're working on safety-critical aerospace code, Boeing doesn't, and probably shouldn't give two shits about your hustling skills.


Pay is based on market forces, of which, skill is only one factor.

In comparison German Engineers are not paid very well, so do you assume they are lesser skilled than US engineers? [1]

1: https://www.payscale.com/research/DE/Job=Software_Engineer/S... https://hackernews.hn/news


A lot of the good German engineers are in the US.


And a lot of great ones are in Germany.


Gmail is down.

https://hackernews.hn/item?id=19375141

Maybe Google is overpaying their engineers?


Would like to know why you're being down voted this much, I think you got a valid point there.


FWIW, the 787 entire fleet was grounded by the FAA in 2013: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_...


Not uncommon for a brand new aircraft. They addressed that issue fairly quickly.


I pay $70 a month for gigabit AT&T fiber in a southern city, 10 miles from the city center.


in nyc, i pay $100 for gigabit


Sweden.10Gbps for 30$ / month. It's kind of a long-running launch campaign, but still. https://www.bahnhof.se/villafiber/


Whats the typical bandwidth quota? Surely they wont let u saturate a 10gig pipe ..


I've got 400Mbs/35Mbps with no cap (literally unlimited) which would cap out at a round 4TB a day if I ever had a reason and could saturate it.

10Gbps domestically is insane though, that's pushing 100TB a day!.


Most of EU plans I have experience with are not capped; but 10gbps seems insanely high.


Belgium, 39€ for internet + digital TV + phone line 50 Mbps, but it is enough)

We are more on the expensive of Europe. My subscription is pretty cheap though.

200Mbps in the entire country would be around 55€ ( internet only)

Europe has 4 of top 5 of the fastest broadband countries in the works.

Romania (#5 in speed), goes as low as 7€/month.


So in Romania it's basically the same percentage of income as in the US.


Where does that reference "stop". Every utility still has a base cost.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the richest in Romania has a much higher income than the poorest in America. But they still pay the same price.

Ps. What if you reference it with social health care in Romania vs US. Not everybody works, you know.


I think a lot of the problem is education. Without education a lot of these ideas wouldn't occur.


It probably has less to do with markets than the university training city planner types get.


This is pure chauvinism, like claiming NASA is 50% Indian. Silicon Valley was the dominant tech center of the world well before the H1B.


What was the salary of mechanical engineer vs an average American worker a hundred years ago? I saw this a while ago and I don't remember the exact numbers, but the multiple was far higher than it is today (something like 10x). Software Engineers are ultimately underpaid all things considered if we consider Software to be a critical part of the economy.

I don't think Mechanical Engineers back then were managed by Project and Product Managers though. They had much higher status.


What was different about America that small towns thrived?

The economic system is short sighted, and doesn't always have to drive politics - this may be a recent phenomena.


When the US was founded, about 95% of the population was rural, and notably, Thomas Jefferson was famously pro-rural, and viewed cities as corrupt.

You can just search "thomas jefferson agrarian quotes" and get tons of pro-ag, anti-city statements from him, such as:

“Cultivators of the earth are the most valuable citizens. They are the most vigorous, the most independent, the most virtuous, and they are tied to their country and wedded to its liberty and interests by the most lasting bonds. As long, therefore, as they can find employment in this line, I would not convert them into mariners, artisans, or anything else.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1785.


We've become a nation of employees.


Microserfs


For a very long time in the US (up to 1970's in Alaska) one had the homestead act that allowed people to claim a large amount of land (160 acres) if you lived on it for five years and improved it. There was a huge amount of land available and this "free" land would create a lot of rural population. People from all over the world came to get a chance to own land. Impossible in Europe basically for a person to be able to own land as just a laborer. Most of this land in the lower 48 was gone by 1900 or so and this is what people are referring to when they talk about the closing of the American frontier.


> Most of this land in the lower 48 was gone by 1900 or so and this is what people are referring to when they talk about the closing of the American frontier.

Well, sorta. The feds still own 30-85% of each Western state:

https://assets3.bigthink.com/system/tinymce_assets/944/origi...


Mostly because that land is so inhospitable that nobody wants it.


Lots of national forest land that many people would love to be able to live on. Check out the prices around Aspen which is surrounded by National forests.


I’m really not familiar with the geography, or its history, but the feds only kept 2% of Texas. I’ll assume the rest became private.


To put it as succinctly as possible... Oil.


When the primary economic inputs were land and undifferentiated labor, there was no use playing in a crowded field.

Now the economic inputs are highly skilled workers and the connections between them.


Logistics, essentially, and the advent of globalism caused more and more centralized approaches.


That's a different Cromwell.


Oliver and Richard Cromwell are collateral descendants of Thomas Cromwell [0]. I'm unsure if it's true but apparently there also a belief that, notwithstanding Oliver Cromwell's actions in Ireland, the Cromwell family has partly Irish origins.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromwell_family


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