Are the many who disagree that it is unreadable more than the people who agree? I have been involved with the language for a while now, and while I appreciate what you and many others have done for it, the sense that the group is immune to feedback just becomes too palpable too often. That, and the really aggressive PR.
Rust is trying to solve a really important problem, and so far it might well be one of the best solutions we have for it in a general sense. I 100% support its use in as many places as possible, so that it can evolve. However, its evolution seems to be thwarted by a very vocal subset of its leadership and community who have made it a part of their identity and whatever socio-political leverage toolset they use.
I've found the rust core team to be very open to feedback. And maybe I've just been using Rust for too long, but the syntax feels quite reasonable to me.
Just for my own curiosity, do you have an examples of suggestions for how to improve the syntax that have been brought up and dismissed by the language maintainers?
> Are the many who disagree that it is unreadable more than the people who agree?
I have no way to properly evaluate that statement. My gut says no, because I see people complain about other things far more often, but I do think it's unknowable.
I'm not involved with Rust any more, and I also agree with you that sometimes Rust leadership can be insular and opaque. But the parent isn't really feedback. It's just a complaint. There's nothing actionable to do here. In fact, when I read the parent's post, I said "hm, I'm not that familiar with Kotlin actually, maybe I'll go check it out," loaded up https://kotlinlang.org/docs/basic-syntax.html, and frankly, it looks a lot like Rust.
But even beyond that: it's not reasonably possible to change a language's entire syntax ten years post 1.0. Sure, you can make tweaks, but turning Rust into Python simply is not going to happen. It would be irresponsible.
Rust is almost git hyoe 2.0. That hyoe set the world up with (a) a dominant VCS that is spectacularly bad at almost everything it does compared to its competitors and (b) the dominant Github social network owned by MS that got ripped to train Copilot.
Developers have a way of running with a hyoe that can be quite disturbing and detrimental in the long run. The one difference here is that rust has some solid ideas implemented underneath. But the community proselytizing and throwing non-believers under the bus is quite real.
Why not? He was a part of a pretty radioactive network of people. I doubt that he just happened to hang with Epstein by mere coincidence, and it does raise some questions about how much Sheryl knew about it.
I think it's very silly to suggest that Sandberg would have known anything at all about Summers personal life a decade before he had dealings with Epstein, simply because he was an undergraduate adviser to her. He was already one of the most famous economists in the country in the late 1980s, when that happened.
Not necessarily. "Quality" and "Security" can be tricky subjects when it comes to a shell. Rust itself is pretty great, but its HN community is made of cringe and zealotry - don't let them dissuade you from trying the language :P
This might be the case if all your travel boils down to off season direct flights between major airports.
In my experience, it has been rapidly going up in price and down in quality since the end of the pandemic. You have very few protections as a passenger, and while you may have some rights on paper, they have been made excruciatingly difficult to pursue with the way support lines work with airlines.
To add insult to the injury, look up the history of bailouts airlines have received.
> while you may have some rights on paper, they have been made excruciatingly difficult to pursue
Are you in the US? In the EU there are many websites that help you get a cancellation/delay refund, they require little more than your boarding pass, and they work very well for a small (sometimes none) fee. The fee is taken from your refund so if you don't get one, you don't have to pay anything.
Paul Bloom (the author if this article) is pretty legendary in the psychology realm. This is not your average run of the mill writer looking to tap into the doomer vibe.
He makes a pretty detailed argument about why loneliness can be a much bigger and more complex problem than its tame name suggests, and the subtle ways in which AI has the potential to exacerbate it.
> Paul Bloom (the author if this article) is pretty legendary in the psychology realm.
Even though the headline caught my attention and agrees with my own intuitions, I was committing the all-too-common HN sin of going through the comments without even having clicked on the article—I am too lazy by default for a full New Yorker article, however much I appreciate their quality.
However, as soon as I saw you mentioned it was written by Paul Bloom, I made a point of reading through it. Thanks!
I don't think I've ever heard of the guy, but I came here to comment that I really loved his style of writing in this article - it seemed really empathetic to all viewpoints of the issue of using AI to cure/prevent loneliness, instead of trying to argue for his viewpoint.
Psych is one of the few fields that is funding replication studies and throwing out concepts that don't pass muster. But because of this research you see headlines about it for psych and conclude the entire field is crap.
People feel hurt and lied to after decades of diligently studying a curriculum who's foundations turned out to be completely fake. Our mental garden must be protected from pests. Some pests even imitate benign bugs like ladybugs, in order to get in.
Imagine if tomorrow, it was announced that atoms and gravity don't exist, the motion of heavenly bodies don't even come close to Newton's laws, and physicists have just been lying so they can live off our tax dollars (but hey, we have a plan to one day start doing real physics experiments! Any day now, you'll see!).
I hope I'm not too dramatic, just felt defensive for some reason. If only there were a real science that could help me understand those feelings. Oh well, gotta keep the aphids out somehow.
There is nothing wrong with being dramatic occasionally! I wish there were a real science to help us understand ourselves more reliably too - but there isn't. But maybe we are slowly entering the enlightenment after the dark ages of psychology?
I think in today's world it is easy to become a cynic, and being a cynic is one way to feel safe. Depending on what your utility function about the world is, being a cynic might actually be the most "rational" approach to life - new things are more likely to fail, and if you always bet that something will fail, or is flawed, or worthless, or a scam, you will be right more often that you will be wrong. In the right circles you might be considered a wholesome, grounded, put together person if you are like that.
But perhaps we could get the best of both worlds? Have a little corner of your garden that is entirely dedicated to experimentation with ideas - keep them there, see how they interact with a sampling of your actual garden, and after you feel confident enough, promote them to the real garden, and let them nudge your life a little. If it turns out for the worse, tear them out and throw them,
I'm thinking of what the replication crisis means for figures like Jean Piaget and Marie Ainsworth. Go take a psych class and they'll be among the first you learn about. None of their stuff replicates. The curriculum I took at community college was mostly fake.
This looks like a reductive view of the field’s broad shifts from psychoanalysis to behaviorism, and again to cognitivism. The impact to practice in the 21st century has been minimal since the latter shift began in the mid-20th and most of the older intellectual vanguard are dead.
This type of pseudo-intellectual skepticism seems typical for HN, but the truth is that the NYC subway is an absolute horror show compared to the subway systems of equally or more corrupt European/Chinese cities.
I am actually baffled that this is even up for debate... Have you seen/smelled the NYC subway? Yes, it's NYC's most used public utility other than perhaps water and electricity, but people use it despite its qualities.
I'm not questioning that NYC's subway is a disaster. Yes, I've spent time in it and have spent time in a few specific European subways and am well aware of the difference.
I'm all for questioning why NYC's subway is worse than London's. I just think that questioning why "cities in Europe and China can afford all this stuff and we (Americans) can’t" is a bad framing: it's so general as to be meaningless and perpetuates misleading stereotypes about both sides of the pond.
The fact at hand is that NYC specifically is a deeply corrupt and extremely filthy city by any standard, European or American.
Rust is trying to solve a really important problem, and so far it might well be one of the best solutions we have for it in a general sense. I 100% support its use in as many places as possible, so that it can evolve. However, its evolution seems to be thwarted by a very vocal subset of its leadership and community who have made it a part of their identity and whatever socio-political leverage toolset they use.