It gets boring dealing with these people who can't take a joke and want to ban everything

I honestly don't feel there is much atrophy or this is an issue at all

As if for example someone's skill lessened if they switched from assembly to a higher level programming language over time (like, does it matter?)

If you for some reason had to go back and program more manually, then you could do so as the need arises

Otherwise, LLMs appear to be here to stay and you don't actually need those skills that are even possibly admittedly "atrophying"

I guess we'd need a detailed pinpointing of what skills exist or existed and to identify if they actually ateophy (I guess I'm not sure if skills are really atrophying, or even if they are if it matters)

Edit: here's an idea or exercise or projects to work on. Maybe people should find clear documentation of pre-AI processes in case you need to go back and learn them. Or create such documentation if it doesn't exist (which would be an exercise to practice your skills to make you remember them).

I waltzed into a tech screen thinking I could handcode python after having LLM be primary at it for over a year. Yeah, there's atrophy -- I humiliated myself and took the lesson. :)

There is a meta-argument about whether companies should interview about hand-coding anymore, but... the skills do atrophy. I've been mixing hand-coding into my routines ever since to try to keep those skills lukewarm. I'm not yet sure if I am wasting my time doing so or not.

$0.02

idk how many articles I have seen as variants of this but

what you do when things get easier is... go try something more difficult

If before it was hard to build one software thing

And now it's easy but building 10 software things is hard (or some other kind of new software thing)

Then you build the 10 or new hard software thing

Satisfaction restored?

lots of moving parts on this discussion but I'll boil it down to:

the ratio of the average individual's wealth to 'illionaire's wealth feels "wrongly asymmetric" for a lot of people (CEOs making ~300x that of average worker)

the question is basically about how that startup scaling at 94% translates to scaling up the individual's life (who faces alleged "stagnant wages")

or in other words, how can entrepreneurs create an approach for society that facilitates individuals scaling up their wealth?

There is for example a perception that a person working all waking hours on a low amount of pay - like minimum wage, and without investments - could never become a 'illionaire through their "honest hard work"; ergo becoming a 'illionaire requires something beyond this "honest hard work" (implying illegal and or unethical means)

certain long clothes allows for skipping sunscreen entirely in perpetuity

This isn't realistic for something likeriding your bike where you get lots of sun on your face and limbs.

The limbs you can deal with, at least. I've done century rides in 100°F+ weather wearing UPF 50 sleeves the whole way... it's actually quite nice because you dip them in water, and they end up staying saturated for a long time. Together with the airflow from the ride it keeps you cool as well as protecting from the sun

Unless you are talking about a Burqa, i think that is not true.

Also a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thawb

While this is commonly brought up as a religious issue, religion obviously predates sunscreen but not sunburn, so it could've originally been a practical reason --- elevated to religious dogma --- why it is customary from that part of the world to wear highly concealing clothing.

Your clothes still need to have a certain SPF, and you're not gonna wear gloves when 100 outside are you?

Just about any shirt is going to have a higher spf/upf than any normal sunscreen. Also who puts sunscreen on their hands??

A long sleeve sunshirt with a hood or better yet a floppy hat is where it’s at. I have a couple of the Colombia PFG ones that I wear for working outside, though I’d like to see if I can find something cotton instead since I’m not a huge fan of synthetic fibers.

I put sunscreen on my hands or I will have completely burnt hands. There's many of us who cant have more than about an hour in direct sunlight (and sometimes much less) before redness and soon burning occurs.

Who puts sunscreen on their hands? People in the sun who want to avoid wrinkles and burns and skin cancer on their hands.

If it's exposed skin, it gets sunscreen.

Nearly everyone I know puts sunscreen on their hands. Here in Australia, the world melanoma capital, sun safety is drilled into you as a kid, to the extent that "no hat no play" used to be official policy in most schools.

Pretty much this

Also for the other comments there are gloves and face masks but I think most people do fine without them unless you're working outside

For the nerds here working indoors during the hottest times of the day... they may need more sun than they get really, rather than blocking it with toxic sunscreens (depends on where they live?)

It means only 2% of the harmful rays (UVA) are getting through the shirt or alternatively the skin under the shirt can spend 50 times as long in the sun as it could without any protection.

Correction: UVB, not UVA.

Correction: the standard used for clothing is UPF, not SPF. They're similar, but there are differences.

SPF is logarithmic so high numbers can be misleading. The FDA has recently banned labeling above SPF 60 for this reason. Doctors usually recommend 30

A typical tshirt is closer to SPF 7, depending on color and weight.

Just from basic logic this has to be false. Maybe there are some translucent t-shirts that are SPF 7 but my skin always reacts much more to sun exposed parts that have SPF applied than it ever did under t-shirt. And no i use high quality SPF50 and reapply.

That sounds right, but SPF 50 shirts are readily available, and at least the ones made from polyester are cheap.

I put sunscreen on my hands.

Staying behind UV protective glass panes while browsing Hacker News does the same.

Couldn't read article - paywall - but parking costs might be paid for in other ways rather than charging for parking

You kind of couldn't trust people before either though

This just makes that fact more visible

Collecting water with tarps is just strategic collection of condensation/dew. Clothing has the issue of often being warmer than ambient because people are warm blooded, so it's unlikely water would condense from the air(though it can condense on the inside from evaporated sweat).

> "no"

Sometimes human effort doesm't have to be complicated though (concise communications)

Experiment and see what works for you

Maybe track half the time and YOLO the rest