> Some tell WIRED the vitriol is making them feel duped by the president and fearful that the hateful rhetoric will become a mainstay for the party.

I'm sorry, but what? How could any of this be a surprise? Sometimes I don't understand people.

Maybe they just needs new batteries

They were ok with him bragging about grabbing women by the pussy but a picture of him as jesus is too far

Agreed. I've been to zion many times and the rangers have never been anything but helpful. A while back a ranger recommended a hike with few people and now I do it every visit.

It is crowded, which is a bummer, but still a great experience.

I'm all in favor of the impeachment but I worry that it makes it more likely that he wants to nuke Iran. If he's going down he'll take everyone with him. Hopefully the people around him are enough afraid of Nuremberg 2 that they stop him.

Anyone who is frustrated with HN comments and moderation just need to read the Reason comment section to see how good it is here.

My eyes.

ditto. do not look at REASON comments section with remaining eye.

I also think being a billionaire warps one's world view. Almost everybody around a billionaire sucks up to them just to get a sip from the firehose of their wealth. Its gotta be hard to stay grounded.

Supporting an illegal war would be a funny way to support democracy. Or maybe they believe in democracies that ignore their constitution.

Agreed. As soon as I see someone pull out TDS I know nothing of substance will follow.

I'm very progressive in some ways but I do think progressives make this particular problem worse, often with good intentions. Both sides are equally NIMBY but liberals also have:

- More environmental regulations that can be used by NIMBY.

- Attempts to solve the using various forms of rent control, which make it worse.

- Related: conservatives favor less regulation, which leads to more construction.

- Liberals hate for (or at least distrust of) landlords. Some of this is well-deserved but I've seen liberals oppose good policies because it will "help landlords".

Lastly, home owners--including liberals--like to see the value of their property go up and tend to favor policies that make it so. It would be nice if we could get people to stop looking at their homes as financial investments.

And despite saying that they're the party of YIMBY, in practice we can clearly see that Democrats simply aren't. They'll say that they allowed ADUs, but then Dallas will come along and build 10,000 homes in the time it took Seattle to simply debate ADUs.

At some point you have to look at the actual results of policy.