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When people say code is the bottleneck, they don’t always mean the lack of code: it’s also the accumulation of code, which becomes like plaque clogging your arteries. When you have too many people pumping out too much code, it can be the death of your startup. Startups have failed from writing way too much code.

amazing how many comments in these discussion talk about startups as if that is all there's to it, you either are at startup or you are plumber... [mind blown...]

Why bother with OpenClaw? Just call the CLI command directly. That is the point of a CLI.

I think the point is that I don't have to remember the command. I just have to tell my agent in plain-English to do X.

For example, we're dragging our feet on Github Config as Terraform at our org so in the meantime I've been using Claude + the gh cli to deploy changes across repos. I don't need to know / remember the gh cli command to pull or push a ruleset, or script a loop in Bash, I just have to say

> Claude pull the ruleset from <known good repo> and push it to <repo 1>, <repo 2>, <repo 3>

The CLI is also nice because it abstracts away authentication. I have another flow which doesn't have a CLI and Claude is more than happy to interpolate the API key that it read from a config file into the chat history (horrifying).


Exactly. Talking in plain English is a lot less mental overhead than reading the man page and figuring out the right command. Nowadays I just use AI instead of remembering ffmpeg commands too. Your point about authentication is important too.

What the hell am I reading, you guys know you can make little scripts for commands with prefilled options or even take in parameters?

That's what the coding agent does if you ask it to record a skill. Yes I can do that manually. But I'll get it wrong a few times before I get it right and waste half an hour in the documentation, if I'm lucky.

Or I just go, "I just created this cloudflare domain. Deploy the site via gh actions to cloudlare pages whenever I push to main. here are my credentials; put them in Github secrets." Or something similarly high level.

The clever thing here is not doing things manually but make sure you generate automation and scripts if you are going to do the same things more often along with skill files detailing how and when to call shit.


Actually if you read the first five sentences of the article, the point of the CLI is to be friendlier for AI agents (in addition to being useful for humans presumably).

> Increasingly, agents are the primary customer of our APIs. Developers bring their coding agents to build and deploy applications, agents, and platforms to Cloudflare, configure their account, and query our APIs for analytics and logs.

> We want to make every Cloudflare product available in all of the ways agents need.


Yeah but you can waste $10-50 having an LLM do that for you instead rather than using your engineering experience to do it. Think of the shareholder value!

That’s easy to game. You just burn tokens.

This won’t be the metric measured for success. It will be something more tractable like tickets completed.

Absolutely not. It will be token usage.

Oh sweet summer child.

I won’t believe AI is truly being met with violence until I see one of these AI tech billionaires get shot multiple times by a person with nothing left to lose. Until we reach that point, it means people still have hope.

You mean like what happened with UnitedHealthcare?

That had nothing to do with AI

I mean, no shit? I was referring to how people are starting to feel powerless and marginalized. And the government, which is supposed to be of the people, by the people, and for the people, clearly doesn't give a fuck about them.

If using an LLM why bother with python? Go for straight shell scripts.

That’s exactly my plan. Too burned out on the npm ecosystem. I don’t have time to update all that shit constantly for a fucking static HTML page

Exactly, so many people reach for these complex toolings and ecosystems.

Their static pages are just a bunch of fucking text files you can print with some CLI commands.


Whether you like it or not, socialism is the key.

How can we automate the disclosure of what AI agent was used in a PR and the extent of code? Would be nice to also have an audit of prompts used, as that could also be considered “code”.

Not over yet. More hikes will come. It will reach $1000.

That's what I said by subsidization being over.

Can you expand what you mean by "subsidization being over" in terms of the plan prices?

- Plus is still the same $20

- 20x Pro is still the same $200

- This is a new 5x tier is $100

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-... is probably a better direct comparison of the 3


Codex had 2x usage until April 1, I think when that ended there were a lot more people (like myself) who were fine on $20 but now want more usage

They're trying to slowly move up market. I assume soon the $20 will get its own restrictions in the future (and/or ads) to get people to pay $100.

The same could have been claimed in 2024 when they introduced the $200 Pro plan. Nothing is over yet just because of what could possibly happen next.

Yes, and now they (will) have ads in the lower tiers and eventually will add them in higher tiers as well. It's no different to Netflix's methods. Therefore the statement would have been proven right if it were claimed back then.

But these are, again, additional tiers.

You can't just say because they've added more things the old things are over - the old things actually have to go away first. Eventually they may get there (or not). It may be another few years (or not). Nothing is actually now over though any more than it was now over in 2024.


Additional tiers to get people to move up as they enshittify the lower tiers. We already see it in other companies as well as OpenAI themselves so my inference is based on that, not to wait and see until they do indeed enshittify it.

That the inference would say these existing paid tiers should have already enshittified with the 2024 $200 Pro announcement is precisely why one does need to wait & see.

The subsidization being "over" would mean we are paying their actual cost or more.

I see what you mean, I misread your initial reply.

You can remove your license plate, you will get pretty far before it actually gets you pulled over.

Actually, that won’t work. The flock cameras don’t only rely on license plate information. They use “AI” to determine the make model and color of your car as well as any outstanding features, such as bumper stickers or roof racks.

It works if you just add a magnet sticker somewhere when you remove your plate.

Leaving a cellphone behind is legal still. Removing a license plate is breaking the law.

Drawing an equivalence is foolish.


Those can be replaced. The damage to US reputation and influence will last the rest of our lives.

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