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I'm almost certain $2800 is actually too low if you're really hitting weekly limits.

I'm on the $100/m plan and used $300 at API billing yesterday (according to ccusage)

Seems like one session is >$100 and I can get 10 full sessions per week

The $200/m plan is supposed to be 4x that in usage, so with 2 of those you could use 4*2*100*10=$8000 in just a week

Using Simon's numbers here as a bare minimum https://simonwillison.net/2026/May/27/product-market-fit/#en... you'd get 1200*4*2=$9600 a month


If they ban GPUs we can always multiply the matrices on paper

Interesting comparison, thanks for sharing! It reminds me of this post about how machine learning and encryption have some fundamental similarities: https://reiner.org/neural-net-ciphers

> I can certainly imagine LLMs taking a similar path. Maybe it's useful to think about what fundamental differences could contribute to LLMs taking a very different path. What comes to mind is the scaling hypothesis, implying that the best LLMs will require enormous capital investment.

That seems largely incompatible with open source barring a fundamental change. There's open weights, but I can't think of a clean historical analogy there and find it extremely difficult to even guess how the future will go


My guess is that they liked the status quo with Project Glasswing and didn't want Fable to be public, especially if anyone is jailbreaking it into Mythos and using it for cyber

But then it backfired spectacularly and now it seems they can't use Mythos currently


I'd guess it's absurdly good business wise, given API pricing is like 10-30x as much

It's certainly worse news for Anthropic than other labs since it's not completely random, and there's people in the administration (e.g. David Sacks) who don't like Anthropic -- perhaps seeing them as an enemy

Seems like estimates are that 70-85% of their revenue comes from API usage/pricing, so some users switching from Opus to Fable for that would've had a big impact

Then there's people switching from GPT 5.5 or upgrading their subscriptions, and Fable being scheduled for removal from subscriptions on the 23rd


Does low/medium effort fix it for you? Seems like Fable 5 low can outperform Opus 4.8 high/xhigh often, and uses a lot fewer tokens

Fable 5 on medium is amazing. It's handling everything I throw at it

I had _one_ instance where for some obscure reason it decided to fall back to Opus 4.8 and Opus IMMEDIATELY fucked it up and implemented a super obvious feature in a slightly-wrong way.


In my case no, I actually saw worse performance with fable medium and switched back to opus high and xhigh

I find high+ unusable, it's way too slow and "thorough" on 99% of mundane task.

Sure it's better at vibecoding whole tasks, it's clearly good at it, but give it a simple one, and it will still do way more than needed.

It's way too fixated on validating even the simplest things, I find it an unproductive model unless you're implementing whole tasks and doing other things in the meantime.


Why are you deploying a bleeding edge, incredibly expensive, model to do the simplest things? Use Sonnet, hell, use Haiku, they'll get the job done and won't set fire to several rainforests in order to achieve the task.

Looking at page 255 of the model card (https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/d00db56fa754a1b115b6dd7cb2e3c3...) it might be much better on all dimensions (speed, cost, quality) to just use Fable 5 on low/medium effort than switch to Opus

thanks for thr insights

so should we keep using workflows or not?



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