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>I host meetups for indie founders

Speaking of sampling bias, isn't this like asking a shovel vendor about the success rate of gold prospectors? :)


All German sounds like dog commands

Parent's point was about deployment, not agentic coding.

Yes, just use random results. You’ve just saved yourself weeks or months of work of gathering actual results.

>Not everyone needs this? Nowadays, we go to AI first and then website. Even Google shows an AI summary first.

Who is "we"?

Why would I want to give AI companies, already a very closed club of 2-3 big players, the keys to the web?

Why would I trust them to show this info in their results over their sponsored results?

Why should the use have to actively work (ask questions to get it out of the LLM step by step) to learn about my product or services? What if they don't know what they should be asking about?


Fully agree unless there is transparency auditable/verifiable by third party that only what you really want is what the AI does !

>You'd be incorrect. It's been well established that lower IQ is moderately associated with higher rates of criminality.

Consider who is doing the "establishing" and what criminality they ignore because those doing it do not even go to prison or jail 99% of time.


>Consider who is doing the "establishing" and what criminality they ignore because those doing it do not even go to prison or jail 99% of time.

Ah yes, I'm sure it's just a conspiracy to keep brilliant people in prison, and let stupid CEOs off the hook.

Look, a quick jaunt through my comment history will show you I'm no corporate bootlicker but this is ridiculous.


Parent meant that almost no white collar crime gets prosecuted or results in jail time for defendants. Which is a very fair statement to.make, no conspiracy involved.

The claim is that the makeup of the prison population would be different if the law was as expeditive and indiscriminate with the well-to-do as it is with the poor: the entirety of Enron in prison, of VW, of Uber, etc.

Your correlation is by and large about criminality among the poor. It would still probably hold in the above scenario, but you can't claim it looks at "criminality" full stop.


No conspiracy required, it's perfectly open.

"A petty thief is put in jail. A great brigand becomes the ruler of a nation." - Chuang Tzu

>I've seen claims that the average IQ in prisons is roughly equivalent to the average IQ of the general population. The line most commonly mentioned after that fact is "and those are the ones that got caught."

This includes white collar crime and all kinds of non-violent crimes though.

Is it the same for the violent crime subset?


Hmm, what would make you assume perpetrators of violent crimes would have a different IQ level than other crimes?

My initial instinct would be that violent crimes are often committed out of passion, and are unrelated to intelligence.


IQ is positively correlated with impulse control.

Example: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016028962...


IQ is negatively correlated with reactive violence, but positively correlated with premeditated violence, per the evolution of our species. Despite our greater emotional regulation and lack of reasonable contextual circumstances to support the need for violence, we're still killing people all the time just like our ancestors.

>Hmm, what would make you assume perpetrators of violent crimes would have a different IQ level than other crimes?

For starters there's the lead exposure relation to violent crime, that is accepted as a factor, and which is also known to lower IQ.

That lead-affected criminal population would drive average violent criminal IQ down, even if the lead exposure worked through a different causual mechanism and lower IQ was just an orthogonal effect.

Besides several studies have found the general correlation.

>My initial instinct would be that violent crimes are often committed out of passion, and are unrelated to intelligence.

Choice of outlet for the outburst, impulse control and other factors however are related to intelligence.

Besides you're just covering "crimes of passion" here. There are career criminals doing homicides, gang shootings, etc, plus physical violence unrelated to passion, but related to intimidation, theft, etc.


Don't forget indirect violence, like electing politicians that use your tax money to blow up kids.

My initial instinct would be that the higher IQ someone is, the better they are able to do most things including control their impulses.

Higher IQ would correlate with an increased ability to predict the consequences of one’s actions. “If I stab this person I will go to prison” versus “if I stab this person everyone will think I’m great because that person sucks.”

And possibly also getting away with hiding the consequences of one's actions

Yes. The biasing function is that (mostly) only the less smart ones get exposed and caught.

Just give them computers already...

What is with this BS idea of medieval jail conditions...


They had computers in one place I was in, but not connected to the Net, just for doing some basic word processing and typing tutorials.

I found the C# compiler that is hidden several levels deep by default in the Windows directory and decided to teach the other prisoners how to code. I needed some reference materials as it's really hard when you have no docs and literally just the compiler. They don't allow computer books in most places "for security reasons", but a very elderly nun took pity on me and asked me what I wanted. I told her "C# Weekend Crash Course" (I wasn't a C# dev at the time and it was the only title I could think of) and she bought it off Amazon and smuggled in not only the book but the CD-ROM that came with it, bless her. I managed to teach the guys how to write text adventures which they enjoyed. I couldn't think of what else fun I could get them to do with only console text in/out.


> I couldn't think of what else fun I could get them to do with only console text in/out.

maybe specialized calculators that ask some parameters (like "how many days" etc) and run some formulas

could even be useful for something


I wish I'd had a bunch of those BASIC programming books from the 8-bit home computer era, they had a ton of fun games based only on simple console input and output.

You can just run bwbasic today (or blassic) and clone the Basic Computer Games from

https://github.com/GReaperEx/bcg

https://github.com/John-Titor/bwbasic


Well, Scoundrel/Donsol it's a game that can be run with just a deck of cards, and porting it to C# it's a trivial task from ANSI C with simple arithmetic:

https://codeberg.org/luxferre/scoundrel-ports


Their thinking is that making the conditions bad will serve as deterrent i.e. would-be criminals would think twice before committing crimes because they're scared of going to prison.

Of course, this makes no sense, as most criminals have low impulse control and don't think about the consequences of their actions in terms of risk/reward calculations. We should use prison time to re-educate these people and try to make them better instead of psychologically torturing them, but here we are, and it's very unlikely things can change within the current political system (too many "checks and balances" for meaningful reforms)


>Of course, this makes no sense, as most criminals have low impulse control and don't think about the consequences of their actions in terms of risk/reward calculations.

Also there are decades and decades of this idea not working out at all...


Not to mention the risk/reward ratio is heavily skewed by the lack of prospects for ex-cons. Once you're in, you got nothing to lose, really.


Not to mention an attacker motivated by financial gain doesn't even need a particular targer defender. One/any found available will do.

Poor him. He is so inconvenienced in this whole process of returning money that's not his

Maybe he's a cunt, but I'd rather wait until he responds before burning his house down.

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