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Looks like nearly 50 million accounts have been exposed. That's an alarming amount.. most of which Chtrbox had obtained/scraped themselves without the account owners knowing.


According to the recent LinkedIn court case, it's legal (at least in US)

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/court-rejects-li...


> This is kind of similar to the mission in Call of Duty series where one has to participate in the slaughter of civilians in an airport - I didn't like that one either.

Oh man that was a tough mission to play through... great game though.. definitely compelling and one of the most memorable. I wonder if something like that could ever pass today.


This. I may be biased as a designer, but I definitely prefer products with better UI if it performs similarly. I'm a firm believer in no matter how great your product is, always invest in good design.


If he does, they really need to work on the UI/UX side of things because FB and Messenger already feel like bloatware and they're difficult to navigate. WeChat on the other hand, along with KakaoTalk but WeChat especially, does it very well without feeling heavy and annoying to use.


Could you be more specific about what's worse on Messenger than WeChat?


Facebook app, Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram all feel a bit repetitive in features. Like they're competing against each other in many ways. WeChat as a single mega app feels very unified. If Mark builds the next WeChat for the West, I'm curious to know how he will unify those apps.


Just fyi, unifying Messenger, WhatsApp, and Instagram is something they mentioned a while back [0], and is something that they're moving foward with now [1]. Although it's looking like they're just going to get the underlying architecture the same so you can message people across apps and less that there is going to be 1 app for everything.

[0] https://www.slashgear.com/whatsapp-instagram-facebook-messen...

[1] https://www.slashgear.com/facebook-messenger-f8-2019-desktop...


It's so they can track you better across all their platforms


FYI, you can also download Messenger Lite. It's less seamless than messenger but it's much lighter weight.


I just checked and it's still not available in the US on iOS


None of those app are difficult to navigate...


Remember when Facebook and Messenger were once a single app? One of the main reasons they separated was to simplify user experience, aside from allowing sms login without a Facebook account, and I can't imagine the two together again at their current state. The reason why WeChat works so well is it's always been chat forward. Their 'moments' works moreso like a lite Twitter feed than Facebook's mess of a newsfeed. And all the misc third party integrations and apps are neatly organized and don't get in the way of chat and moments. Nothing about the interface or experience feels spammy or unnecessary and I never have to think much to get to what I want. At least that's just how I felt heavily using all those apps. There's something about all-in-one/mega apps that Asia does really well.


Instagram is good.


I actually think Instagram is a better candidate to become the next WeChat


How is Messenger Bloated?


Its not like facebook applications haven't had insane amounts of duplicated resources and crazy amounts of gigantic libraries/frameworks: https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap...

Not sure if its relevant for messenger or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if messenger was overly huge for the task its performing.


It is a piece of bloated app that adds all your FB friends to your messenger friend list automatically and constantly spams you to contact them on anniversaries etc. I deleted it the same day I downloaded it.


that's weird, i never get prompted to contact anyone except for the default thread that opens when you have a new friend, which admittedly i don't like


sometimes on HN I get the feeling that anything more than a command line application written in Rust or in C may be called bloated


C isn't hipster enough for HN.


I wrote a custom ARM assembler that generate prolog that uses genetic programming techniques to optimize the interface. I've found the best interface to be my set of 8 multi-colored LEDs driven by a custom build arduino system that talks serial. Unfortunately I have to use a usb-serial adapter these days, and then a usb-c-to-usb-a adapter. My dongles have dongles.


can't tell if you're serious, the beginning sounds crazy but the end is a mundane practical issue


The $35k configuration is still available but by phone/in person order, not online


What are the partner rewards mentioned for Tea Room?


We're starting with up to $100k in AWS credit, $1,000 off a 409a and 20% off Pilot bookkeeping for 6 months. More to come. Email me at jason at mercury.co if you want to know more.


$1,000 off a 409a? How much would the 409a cost after the discount?

Asking because our 409a cost us about $1,200...


To clarify, it's through a specific partner (fast409a) which usually charges $2,000. Sorry, should have specified in the original post.


The numbers can be found on the Apple Wallet app


I also participated in the beta and was quite impressed. In my case, there was no lag and instead, when connection was poorer, the stream quality would get lowered (i.e like Youtube - 1080p to 460p). I think this can be completely resolved with a solid connection.

Speaking on Google leveraging Youtube for Strada, I also think this could be an amazing affiliate opportunity for game developers and content creators. Imagine watching your favorite streamer (or I guess game reviewer) and with a click of a button, without having to download, play the game right from your browser (demo or full game). Great source of income for content creators, great frictionless experience for viewers/consumers, and great tool for developers.


You mean a great place to loose another 30% of your income. A great place where you are forced to implement Google play related shit. A place where you can be expelled from the service based on wrong bot decisions. A place where there is no human support. A place where only the big publishers are looked after for. A place where indie developers are treated as shit. A place where search algorithms are dubious. Yes that's what you can expect from a Google stream service. Just as the playstore currently is.


Like Steam, but a little bit worse?


I've always used and now plan to stick with Sinemia. Advanced ticketing through any online site like Fandango, works at any theater, works for 3D/4DX/IMAX/premium formats. It's still limited to 3 movies a month but for the price and all these "better" features it's definitely worth it for me and the girlfriend.

Here's the thing though, Sinemia stuck with these features and pricing model from the start so it made sense financially for them and was still a great deal.

At this point MoviePass seems like they're clinging for life and all my peers on their plan express frustration every time these frequent changes occur. I'd like to link my referral code but I think their own signup offerings are better -


Sinemia is so much better it's insane!

I feel bad for my friends when we go to movies and they use MoviePass. Seems like they have so many restrictions, whereas I can just buy tix online whenever to _any_ showing.


Russ was right


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