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Reversing Citizens United, publicly funding elections, installing a functional regulatory regime and equitable taxation would go a long way.

Perhaps we could also engage in less ill considered military adventurism as well? Causing a domestic affordability crisis as a distraction and a salve for one's ego seems like a bad idea.


Now you can automate malign trash and hide behind Cloudflare at scale.

Everything Meta has built is antithetical to privacy. I’m surprised this feature existed at all.

I’m curious if this was built off the work Moxie did with them back in the day, but as I recall Facebook Messenger had E2EE built off Signal’s technology a decade or so back, and the zeitgeist back then was at least a little bit less user hostile.

I feel like Messenger was originally a new front-end for the send message feature of thefacebook.com's social network for college students. It was based on the PHP architecture where all the messages are in a database and you just render HTML to show them.

That grew into the Messenger mobile app. They eventually added private messaging, but it was never popular/defaulted because users expected the chat moles on facebook.com to be able to show the same messages as the mobile app. If facebook.com can't read your messages, it can't show them there.


That era of Facebook was the last shred of respect I had for them, but it was starting to die for me. Now I've noticed younger generations really don't seem to care about Facebook, and friends I grew up with who used to post on Facebook no longer do.

I feel like if e.g. Whatsapp were not end-to-end encrypted, it would have faced significantly more regulatory scrutiny in the EU and other places where it's effectively replaced phone calls and SMS.

Probably figured they'd ride the wave of E2EE messaging while public popularity crested to draw some conversations (group chats?) onto the platform, just to inevitably rug pull later.

I assume Meta has backdoor access.

Then why end the more insidious route rather than stay the course?

Then why end the feature? Would it not be better to maintain the facade and continue to benefit from it?

If they formally sunset the feature, there’s less of a case for someone to sue.

One can’t say they didn’t know or consent to their group chat info being used for training data if there’s no reason to assume your chat data is private


This has always been my assumption as well.

Given how few upvotes and comments this submission gets, no one here is surprised at the disappearance of the feature. I guess at 8 May there'll be a higher upvoted submission that better matches the relevance of Meta's move in HN submission history.

> Staff of Pablo Torre Finds Out > For a pioneering and entertaining form of live podcast journalism that investigated how the Los Angeles Clippers seemingly evaded the NBA’s salary cap rules by funneling money to a star player through an environmental startup.

This is still being investigated by the NBA. I'm curious how it'll play out, but it's not a good look for the league.


It's missing the part where they explain how they obtained the training data for their voice AI.

They can't really cite the situation as a problem given their hand in creating and continuing it.

It's hard to talk about "them" as a singular entity. I bet that the "Copilot all the things!!11" faction mostly does not consist of GitHub SREs.

The GitHub SREs are working for the Copilot company.

Satya Nadella at the LlamaCon event in April 2025: "I’d say maybe 20%, 30% of the code that is inside of our repos today and some of our projects are probably all written by software."

In particular Github, with it's copilot-next initiative, has probably so much AI generated code inside today that fixing all this new performance problems will need lots of human developer brains.


It literally have problems the moment MS bought it, way before AI gold rush.

The sysadmins didn't make any of those decisions.

I suppose the idiocy of their parent company is their job security.

Copilot's full functionality is only fractionally useful compared to what's currently degraded.

I denylisted traffic from Singapore. As far as I could discern it was all Windows 11 machines running Chrome accessing pages sequentially. I’d love to not do that, but trying to sift through that is quite the task.

TLS fingerprinting may identify what they actually are

Greater than $0 in cost of living increases for people living near these things is too much.

What a strange thing to say. This is peak NIMBYism and I urge you to reconsider. Loudoun country as an example generates ~1B USD annually [1] from taxes through data centres. That's equivalent to paying an annual salary of $40,000 to around 30k people. That's a LOT.

Do you really not consider taxes before repeating this tired argument?

[1] https://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/View/219184/General-F...


Are you saying any industry that brings in net new jobs with above median wages is bad? Or just ones with few employees and high additional property tax revenue?

When the new jobs number increases to four (or even three) digits people will take that more seriously.

Loudoun county generates ~1B USD from taxes annually from data centers. That's equivalent to 30k jobs paying 40k usd annually. Is that enough?

I'm concerned with the ones that create temporary jobs, few permanent ones, drive up water and electrical rates and then help deskill other industries.

If we could magically guarantee that our [starry-eyed|gullible|treacherous] political leaders didn't give back most of those property taxes before the DC even broke ground...

How many jobs are created? And how many jobs were also lost because of AI? A few jobs created vs thousands or more lost isn't a positive.

> that brings in net new jobs

Ah yes, those invaluable tens of jobs created by DCs....


The economy is not a jobs program. Stop thinking about it that way. Think in terms of taxes generated instead.

But it was not my argument, was ot?

It wasn't mine. You sort of created it in https://hackernews.hn/item?id=47978872 .

Really, wasn't yours? I mean you literally used "net jobs created" as an argument ?

That part was not discussing data center jobs; it was asking cdrnsf if they'd object to other industries bringing in jobs that just happened to be above median wage (which would increase the COL for existing residents).

Well then, why would you ask them that in this context? Just out of interest and out of the topic context?

It's only a matter of time until streaming succumbs to slop, much like social media has. If it allows Spotify to reduce royalty payouts and attrition doesn't meaningfully increase, they'll keep supporting it. Meanwhile, real artists suffer and the rich get richer.

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