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This is a new space race. From a geopolitical level, a nation that has a better presence on the moon will have a better strategic advantage.

What about the mineshaft gap though?

What about it makes you think it is important?

we of course need the strategic advantage?

Can you explain anything about what you are talking about in more than one sentence?

This is satire. Based on the movie Dr. Strangelove. I'm sarcastically responding to the space race comment. There is an explanation in multiple sentences.

it's ironic though, that you wrote your comment in English.


That is only historic influence, though. Britain does not control the English language and cannot exert any further influence through it.


It has profound foundational influence that continues to this day.

Also, England doesn't need to do anything to ensure that influence of English culture is maintained in the US either.

For as long as we still speak the English language, English culture will continue to live "rent free" in our heads, and that's not going away anytime soon.

This is often cited as a "soft power".


Well, Monthy Python does still reach some people, but apart from that it is fading away it seems ..


The lingua franca has changed before...


Yeah, but whose English?


I think you meant,

"but whom's English"


I'd imagine that a transpiler for Perl with this idea would make one-liners even more potent.


ACEEE IN PRST


drones with mirrors?


First wave of drones explode into clouds of chaff, second wave of drones penetrates the very expensive laser system…


Look at books: You can go to your local public library and borrow any book for free, yet new books are still made under that system.


Fair point! In many libraries, you can go to the library and check out DVDs as well.

That could be a way to make videos available for free but inconvenient enough that people would pay for a more convenient way, just as they do with books.


The cost of creating a book is essentially $0 when compared to movies.


The _vast_ majority of book sales are to private individuals, not libraries.


For now you may need a warrant. However, after just a simple law change, it will all be available without a warrant. I'm not saying there will be a law change, only saying that it brings us one step closer to data.


Recently the USA blew out some some boats in international waters and came back to finish off the survivors, despite thin evidence and no due process, while maintaining that it was legal. If those data centers on ships ever become declared as a 'threat to national security' then they might get the same treatment.


I think GP's point is that an advanced nation-state could just as easily shoot down an orbiting data center as an oceanic data center and that "international space" offers an equally flimsy defense as "international waters" but a much larger price.


Antisatellite weapons are expensive and rare, and also woefully inadequate for dealing with megaconstellations.

If there's one large orbital datacenter, then sure, ASAT is a threat to it. But if it's a dispersed swarm like the Starlink system?

Good luck making a dent in that. You'd run out of ASAT long before Musk runs out of Starlink.


Swarms of satellites need to maneuver, which includes maneuvering directly toward the atmosphere.

It would take zero anti-satellite weapons to take down Starlink. Just point a good old fashioned gun at the SpaceX engineer who can issue maneuvering commands to the satellites.


You only need to destroy a few. Then you have a cloud of debris that will take down the rest or at the very least force them to use all their fuel making evasive manoeuvres.


And they'd get away with it too if it weren't for that pesky orbital mechanics.


Not really. Space is too large.


On the contrary, orbital positions are quite limited. And space debris is already a large issue.


Only in specific situations like the GEO orbit.

Otherwise? Go wild. The space doesn't lack for space.

And with all the LEO megaconstellations? GEO isn't as vital as it once was.


A cosmic game of billiards.


Blow up the ground stations. Or the CEO.


Good fucking luck. Starlink's ground infrastructure is absurdly decentralized. Laser links make that possible.

Starlink can even bounce data P2P, from one client terminal to another.


How absurd is absurdly decentralized, here. A hundred ground stations? Thousands? Do they really have more than can be shut down by the FBI domestically and blown up by the USAF internationally?

And how does decentralized ground infrastructure save you from a centralized executive?


Over one hundred ground stations, spread across the world. More on demand - Starlink allows one to use terminals as makeshift ground stations in a pinch.

Uncle Sam could bring Starlink down, probably. For anyone else, that would pretty much require WW3.

Executives don't matter as much as you think they do. No credible executive is going to cave to random death threats, and carrying them out would cause new executives.

Now, would SpaceX eventually become a shell of its former self without Musk calling the shots? Maybe. But if the shell you're worrying about is Starlink orbital shell, and the time you're worrying about is today and not in ten years? Killing Musk doesn't help you much.


You think Musk would refuse, and give up his freedom or even his life instead of complying with a US government demand? The point isn’t to actually kill him. The point is that you can, and you use that to force compliance.


Lasers


This would be equally true in space.


If those ships chose to not fly a flag, they'd even have justification to do so. And if they did choose to fly a flag, then that country would have the responsibility to police them, and is the US complained to that country, that country might just withdraw protection anyway. Data center ships just want to loiter where convenient, they're not cigarette boats flying along at 100mph... no way to evade a navy that wants to blow them out of the water.


Why wouldn't this physical sign be the same? "If you step your foot over this stone, you agree to the following terms:"


Also, the Indonesia that most Australians only ever visit is Bali, which is mostly Hindu.


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