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Yes, El Salvador is so evil for imprisoning dangerous criminals and protecting innocent lives.

El Salvador is blessed by evil criminals put away from the streets. It took thousands of those who you defend for a whole country to be free to enjoy tranquility and security. I was born there and I know better than you calling us evil

I am not telling that imprisoning the criminals is a bad things, but the conditions in which this has been done and how they're treated in prison is against human rights by any measure.

The person you responded is agreeing with you.

Parent was being sarcastic

This is how china tried to justify its genocide against uighers. Was theboutrage against that just politically motivated? Or do americans only care about ethnic cleansing when theyre not the ones doing it

They also don't care when done by their allies.

Not for imprisoning, but for imprisoning them in draconian conditions, without proper judgements, etc. Have you seen those prisons for fuck sake?

The Uyghur say hi.

It's evil when it's not optional.


Yeah, and there's an evil monopolistic element to Steam's forced use of the client and the DRM it enables. I'll be angry at GoG if they ever make the launcher mandatory, but it doesn't seem like that's what this is so far?


Nah, that just turns people into slaves of whoever is signing the checks.


Unlike now?


Yes, it would be even worse with people lacking in productive skills.


Doubt it. Demoralization is what they're after.


His views are the normal ones.


Arresting the leader of a narco terrorist tyranny allied with even worse powers like Iran, China and Russia is in fact a good thing.


Oil that was being given to Cuba, Iran, Russia, China...


By "given" you mean sold and by "Cuba, Iran, Russia, China..." you mean the only countries that aren't gonna follow the US' absurd sanctions that have led to so much suffering inside of Venezuela

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/05775132.2019.16...

> This article analyzes the consequences of the economic sanctions imposed on Venezuela by the U.S. government since August of 2017. The authors find that most of the impact of these sanctions has not been on the government but on the civilian population. The sanctions reduced the public’s caloric intake, increased disease and mortality (for both adults and infants), and displaced millions of Venezuelans who fled the country as a result of the worsening economic depression and hyperinflation. They made it nearly impossible to stabilize Venezuela’s economic crisis. These impacts disproportionately harmed the poorest and most vulnerable Venezuelans.


From what I gather, most of the food insecurity in Venezuela arose pre-2017 back when Obama was doing narrowly targeted sanctions on key individuals. You can see undernourishment rockets upward after Maduro takes power in 2013:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/prevalence-of-undernouris...

Nothing Trump has done to Venezuela was justified or sensible. I just want to clarify that the nation's dysfunction does not seem to be primarily due US activity. (Maybe if we wait a little bit, it will be!)


It's their oil to give.


Who is “they”? Maduro is not the elected leader of Venezuela.


How did you come to that conclusion?


Western logic.


Literally nobody believes he won the last election. Biden said this repeatedly.


Neither is your Trump the elected leader of Venezuela.


Maduro and Chavez before him are the horrid outcomes.


Chavez was the result of democratic elections, before he grabbed dictatorial powers.



I didn’t pretend that. Still, he was elected and the 1998 election is largely uncontested as far as I’m aware.


And the election he stole last year?


Who, Chavez? He died in 2013.


Are you that clueless?


> The president should not have the power to apprehend a countries president IN THEIR COUNTRY

Good thing then that Maduro isn't the president of Venezuela, but a narco-terrorist usurper.

EDIT: Downvoting me will not change that fact, only hide it.


Other than his country's oil, what's the difference between him and the Honduran president that Trump pardoned?


One surrendered, for starters.


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