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I feel that everyone likes @dang but he’s still underrated. Seriously good mod - exceptional, in fact.


Dan has helped define for me what thoughtful moderation looks like. Not everyone likes dang, but this website is my Third Place and I am so thankful for the hard work (from Dan and everyone who participates here with integrity) that keeps it alive.


How about raising children with the stated goal of having them move out?


I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm not suggesting you should do the same productive achievement all your life. Life changes and so should your goals as time moves on.

Also, why are you having children if your only goal is to get rid of them? Yes, part of having children is hoping and preparing for them to eventually be independent adults, but that's hardly the only thing raising children is about.


You have the “right” as much as the next person but society is most benefited from those with experience helping those without.

The argument that you deserve to watch TV all day because you once had a job is curious.


> The argument that you deserve to watch TV all day because you once had a job is curious.

How so? I think you're missing the most important part of my comment, which was about encouraging children to discover their passions and achieve self-sufficiency.

It's not about "once holding a job." It's about being able to take care of yourself. I'm not saying that I like the idea of spending the latter part of my years being unproductive, but that the wealth accrued during those productive years gives one the ability to do that.

If I'm not dependent on anyone, if I worked and saved in order to earn that life for myself, then yes I deserve to pursue my own happiness whatever that means for me and it's no one else's business or place to dictate otherwise.


Let's imagine a very talented 10 year-old who earns a billion dollars (perhaps they're a media star or very gifted technically, whatever the reason, they have earned this money through their own efforts rather than inheriting it) and has had themselves legally emancipated. Would you feel comfortable with this child deciding they are now going to exclusively watch television for the remainder of their life?


If a 10 year-old somehow managed to get themselves legally emancipated (that's a crucial piece of context that you offered) AND had earned 10 billion dollars to sustain themselves for the rest of their lives then yes, absolutely without question. They have every moral right, and my full approval, to do whatever they want to with their one shot here on earth. I'm more than perfectly comfortable with it and it's none of my business.


Most people while you are working, save money in the retirement plan. So when they retire, they are just using the money they saved, not living out ot thin air.

In some jobs, old people can still contribute. But other jobs like that require a lot of physical strength are almost impossible.

An extreme case are sports. After some age, your body is just not good enough. Some can transition to being a coach or reporter. Some are only good at kicking a ball. If they are good enough to make millions of people happy, why can't they save some of the money they earn and have a nice life?


Then by your argument, there should be no young teachers as what the hell kind of experiences could they possibly have to teach?


Teachers don’t teach experiential knowledge


That is probably the saddest thing I have read all day.

The best teachers I ever had were the ones that taught the subject material but from a relatable manner based on their years of experience. Yes, the best teachers I personally had were older.


Feels like you’re making emotional appeals to make the previous responder look out of touch in this post, and the previous, in opposite directions.

The best teachers I ever had were kind, smart, and well funded.


The first post was that old timers not sharing their experiences was bad which in my mind extrapolates to old timers should all be teachers.

The second post was that acknowledging the fact that teachers no longer teach but instruct based on a preset curriculum arranged to get grades for specific tests higher.

The fuzzy logic in my head might not be clear to me let alone others, but I feel you're trying to make something out of nothing as well.


Probably all of the experience they gained by getting a degree and becoming certified to teach, for a start


Most of the job of a teacher is being a publicly appointed babysitter.

Much of the rest is teaching the basics, which, as a functional adult, they should have decades of experience with.


You'd be amazed at the number of "functional adults" that are lousy babysitters


I want them all to fail.


I'll drink to that!


> Of course, there were other things that helped calm my brain down. Things that helped me take a step towards these realizations and act on them.

Please share. Great comment, BTW. Enlightening for someone like me who suffers from the same situation and hates himself for it.


Thanks, it means a lot to know my comment help others! I thought it was going to be buried and didn’t expect an upvote, much less getting replies that it was helpful.

It’s tough to share many of the other steps I’ve taken on a public forum. Honestly, I doubt they’d be as helpful as my previous comment because they’re so personal. Because they are so specific to me.

However, I can share that group therapy is the main resource I used to take those steps. I highly recommend it.

What’s nice about group is that I get to hear various perspectives on a situation. Everyone there has gone through somewhat similar struggles but their interpretations of those struggles are different.

As each person speaks, I find a nugget of wisdom that I can use. A bit of insight that I wouldn’t realize on my own. A phrase that finally helps a concept click in my head.

Of course 1-on-1 therapy is helpful too but group is a treasure trove of insight for personal growth.


Elon’s tactics have been to eliminate positions regardless of individual strength - e.g. his recent “hardcore” email. That is culling but it is not whaling. In my experience, whales have the most freedom to leave and will be the fastest to employ it. So, one could argue, this is anti-whaling.

Whatever the case, it’s clear he’s not in on some master scheme us mortals can’t understand. He’s just a man with an inflated ego who wants to feel above the rest. Just like the Twitter poster here.


That was my initial thought too about this theory. In any tech company competent people are always the first ones to leave on first signs of trouble. They already have new opportunities lined up and they are just waiting for an excuse to leave and probably get a pay rise on their way out. High functioning people in general tend to have each others backs because they have more to give and it's just more fun to work being surrounded by capable people rather than use your time instructing people who never seem to get it and just leech your time.

In case I sound elitist, I don't think those competent people have any inherent trait that makes them that way, it's more to do with whether you know how to do deep work, it's something you can learn.


That's just not true - most competent/valuable people have an 'ownership mentality' - that is they invest serious mental effort into making every feature as good as it can be, to tackle hard challenges rather than moving - this unfortunately is not always optimal for either career progression or rising through the ranks internally and gives management some leverage to fleece these people.


Or maybe...

Just maybe...

Twitter was a bloated and poorly-run company that was in serious need of an enema.

This is bouyed by the facts. Employees did very little actual work, each had multiple bosses who haphazardly lead their teams to accomplish nothing in 12 years, and oversaw mountains of wasteful corporate spending that produced nothing but losses in 10 out of the last 12 FY. Upwards of $4,000,000,000.

Musk could drag himself into the office, guzzle down 2 smoothies and "relax" ...and do nothing else till 4pm and still do better than the last decade of Twitter leadership.


Instead of an enema the patient has been pared down to a lobotomized quadriplegic.


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