Today 9 PM will be 21st hour of the 21st day of the 21st year of the 21st century.

A brain is not equal to a computer or a processor.

You will never get the answer if you look at it from a narrow minded perspective.

A brain is equal to billions of processors connected in a highly naturally efficient network functioning almost effortlessly.

Something along these lines seems like a plausible comparison to a brain.

What is a brain is not equal to a processor but a neuron is equal to a processor?

What gives you so much motivation to be that data?

>> long term health effects

Does it mean 100 years of data. Shouldn't we see 100 years of data before we decide on whether something is safe to consume. I am sure we have 100+ years of data that consuming naturally grown chicken meat is healthy.

> What if we stop eating chicken and then they go extinct?

People keep chickens as pets.

Also eggs.

Sure, but the world population of chickens probably still crashes...

Raising an animal and growing a piece of meat is entirely different things, they don't compliment each other.

Raising an animal is giving it natural food and let its different organs do its work and let it grow into full animal by using natural processes that has been happening for ever.

Lab grown meat is using artificial process to force some flesh to grow which we recently assume have figured out n force ourselves to believe its authentic, This is something that we have found in last few years.

Why would anyone believe a noob tech when there is a grandiose nature in the picture.

>> like with normal chickens you have no idea what exactly what they ate, or how they mutated.

like with lab grown chicken you have no idea what chemical process got misunderstood/ abused, what particular pound of meat did not go through all the process, and how the human error got over looked, and what decaying factor is involved in this...

How come in the same species one crowd can be thinking organic/ natural/ home grown food and other crowd can be thinking lab grown meat...

Mutations in nature can happen totally randomly, with no guarantee that they will benefit humans. Whereas in a lab maybe something will go wrong, once we get it right, it's right forever.

On the one hand, I'm not aware of any research that says eating organic foods is more healthy. Also I think it's people reacting to new things, like some people hear lab grown meat and are grossed out, others are excited about a more efficient way of farming. New technology is always divisive it seems.

When this technology becomes mature, what then is your opinion?

Are you as skeptical against all "noob tech" or just this one? Or just "artificial processes" in certain areas like food, whatever you count as that (why not farming or gardening too)?

What if all the lions in this planet think I couldn't stand killing a deer?

Where on this planet do lions naturally live alongside deer? This what-if seems as unnatural as the lab meat you seem so concerned about.

Don't lions eat meat?

Don't you think a lab grown meat is something that is 100% antibiotics?

It is odd how one says Yes without a doubt to something that one eats, but also is aware of being unaware of its health effects.

It is very scary though...

Don't you think we should eat something that is guaranteed to bring good health to us...

Wouldn't lab grown meat have no antibiotics since they probably won't encounter any random diseases.

Any idea why they wont have any disease? Because they are not even a living entity. they are just a non living thing, like a stone or sand or plastic or shells in the ocean. Would humans be inclined to eat a non living thing? As a living being i think we should be eating other living beings, like a vegetable or organic salmon...

If we can easily believe that eating lab grown meat and real living natural food is same then why don't we believe fake news as real? They also sound real, they also have words, they also have websites they also appear to have likes...

This effort to make the boundary between nature and artificial disappear isn't it like making ourselves disappear, are we humans not natural beings?

Ok I suppose I should add caveats, like I am assuming that this would be FDA approved and tested by a few independent sources before being put on grocery shelves.

Regarding your thoughts on whether it's a living thing, is purely philosophical. It sounds to me like you haven't actually seen what goes into these artificial meats. They extract cells from animals and feed them the nutrients they need (like amino acids) to cause the cells to divide and grow like they would in the animal's body.

So whether a muscle grew with a cow over years, or it grew in a lab, does that really matter?

Is an organ that's grown on a pig any less an organ than one grown in a human?

I was thinking because they don't need to be exposed to farm conditions, with disease being able to transmit from animal to animal.

Because meat isn't true or untrue, it provides things your bodies need, things it doesn't need, or things that are harmful to it.

I'll be honest, I'm not totally on board, but I don't see any reason we shouldn't grow meat in a lab, and probably many benefits.

But vats can still support bacteria colonies, just like cows can.

Ideally, they'd be sterilized between batches, in a way that left no residue on the product. In practice, though, I wonder if they won't need to use antibiotics (or something like them) in order to ensure a safe product.

The advantage will be that all those antibiotics don't run off into the soil... except for the plant's wastewater. Still, it ought to be more localized than the current practice.

Reading your comments in this post, by now I must ask: what is your continued interest here? Are you honestly interested in "keep Humans natural" or similar? Are you in the meat industry?

My daughter has significant food sensitivities. Certain foods cause dramatic behavioral changes. Dyes are a problem. Corn is a problem. Soybeans are a problem. Chemicals in the food are a problem. We've learned the hard way to be very careful about what she eats.

So I'm suspicious of "it's just the same". Yeah, it is, except for the traces of stuff where it's not. Those traces may not matter to most people. (Then again, they may - prions, anyone?) But to at least some people, the small differences really matter, not because of their taste buds or their feelings about their food, but because they legitimately react strongly to some things.

But you, why are you so eager to discredit someone whose viewpoint (I assume) differs from your own? Why are you so eager to ascribe bad faith or ulterior motives to someone?

Just wondering what could be the reason many think lab grown meat is a food when no other food falls in that criteria. Haven't got any convincing point yet. Only some distracting ones which become clear on the second read.

Is there any other lab grown thing that we have eaten?

Hydroponics comes to mind, replace soil with water, provide nutrients artificially, pretty similar really.

Health concerns are a valid point.

And I'm not trying to discredit someone with different opinions. I'm trying to understand that person on a deeper level than they've so far given.

Are you in the lab grown meat industry?

Not even a little bit. Your turn to answer.

My answer too is No. I am just concerned poor materials being introduced as food in the image of doing good which may mislead many who don't look deeper.

I feel like they could keep everything totally sterilized. Hopefully with everything roboticised.

I think it comes down to progress. Most of the meat we consume has a heavy toll on the environment. And with many other countries developing, gaining wealth and having the purchasing power to consume meat regularly, it's going to be a disaster. We innovate in so many respects, why can't we innovate with tasty, satisfying ways to consume proteins and fats that don't have the destructive nature that our current system has?